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nanogyth wrote:
any time it detects any blinking
I think you're overestimating YT here a bit ;)
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Anty-Lemon wrote:
Imo other games look better with 60fps deblink as well, like SM. While arm pumping does look worse, replacing fake transparency with actual transparency when Samus is taking damage or on the elevator looks much better.
This is where I disagree. I like the fast blinking better than the replacement of actual transparency. Also the as feos said, there may be artifacts from deblinking. I think in the end it's a preference like having hqx filter. The fact it may have artifacts though is what concerns me.
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Anty-Lemon wrote:
Either way, it's a great compromise, and I look forward to seeing 60fps encodes (other than Yoshi's Island) on tvc :D (Once Firefox updates... grumble grumble)
With a combination of 'media.mediasource.enabled' set to true, and optionally setting 'media.mediasource.ignore_codecs' to true and using a nightly build, you can have 60 fps with firefox too :)
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Aktan wrote:
Anty-Lemon wrote:
Imo other games look better with 60fps deblink as well, like SM. While arm pumping does look worse, replacing fake transparency with actual transparency when Samus is taking damage or on the elevator looks much better.
This is where I disagree. I like the fast blinking better than the replacement of actual transparency. Also the as feos said, there may be artifacts from deblinking. I think in the end it's a preference like having hqx filter. The fact it may have artifacts though is what concerns me.
If you don't think there are artifacts in the deblinked 60fps footage, try 0.25 speed. Climbing the platforms(Metroid) shows this best.
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Aktan wrote:
This is where I disagree. I like the fast blinking better than the replacement of actual transparency. Also the as feos said, there may be artifacts from deblinking. I think in the end it's a preference like having hqx filter. The fact it may have artifacts though is what concerns me.
Agreed, the difference between blinking at 60 FPS and deblinked is very apparent and the former seems better to me after watching many TASes with blinking.
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creaothceann wrote:
nanogyth wrote:
any time it detects any blinking
I think you're overestimating YT here a bit ;)
http://tasvideos.org/forum/viewtopic.php?p=396254#396254
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feos wrote:
creaothceann wrote:
nanogyth wrote:
any time it detects any blinking
I think you're overestimating YT here a bit ;)
http://tasvideos.org/forum/viewtopic.php?p=396254#396254
Yes, but I don't think YT is analyzing any pixels to detect blinking - it just looks at the framerate.
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Please keep in mind that deblink can be used in many ways, and just applying it with default settings to the whole encode won't produce optimal results. This is the file I used for encoding Lethal Enforcers This for Bubble Bobble This for Rolo to the Rescue This for Claymates
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So apparently 480p60 is a thing now.
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I think I already mentioned it somewhere in these forums probably, probably not (probably just irc). This is a Chrome Glitch: Same video, opened in Firefox. 480p60fps is a glitch that's actually just 720p60fps in this glitch and that 240p is actually not a proper selection anymore. What do you mean by proper selection? It's right there in Pokota's image. When you select 240p it's 360p when you select 144p it's 144p the resolution for 240p is gone. How do you know the resolution? sighs Stats for Nerds on YouTube, it's a very useful feature. Use it. Edit: Found one of my posts about it, right HERE. It's in an area where we discuss a movie... hmm. Welp. I won't blame anyone for not looking in an area after a submission has been published and a random discussion started up from over there.
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Masterjun wrote:
It looks like Youtube is bad at being good. Currently, choosing 240p gives you the 360p video, when choosing 360p it gives you 480p and so on (look at rightclick -> "Stats for nerds"). This might be the reason why we suddenly have 480p60, as it is actually 720p60!
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144p works as 144p 240p is missing :(
Just telling you that this isn't new.
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feos wrote:
60fps HD encodes now can be watched from movie modules and discussion threads (wiki modules will follow soon). To watch them you need Google Chrome, Firefox, or Internet Explorer 11. See details here.
I never got FF 35.0.1 to work at all. Flash player, hardware acceleration enabled, no other tabs open. Chrome works fine
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Anty-Lemon wrote:
I never got FF 35.0.1 to work at all. Flash player, hardware acceleration enabled, no other tabs open. Chrome works fine
For flash, YT won't ever support 60 FPS (so I've heard), so you need to force HTML 5 player to get 60 FPS at all.
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Aktan wrote:
For flash, YT won't ever support 60 FPS (so I've heard), so you need to force HTML 5 player to get 60 FPS at all.
:? I read the opposite in this thread
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OK, so with the Flash player, you're pretty much guaranteed to get 60 fps video at 720p+ (provided you have hardware acceleration enabled) (tested in Firefox 34.0.5 with the Flash player, and I got 60 FPS video at 720p in both cases).
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Nope, no 60 fps for me with latest firefox + flash with hardware acceleration enabled. Don't know what's what here. I tested the super metroid clip. Maybe there's a recent thing with newer videos?
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Anty-Lemon wrote:
I read the opposite in this thread
fsvgm777 wrote:
OK, so with the Flash player, you're pretty much guaranteed to get 60 fps video at 720p+ (provided you have hardware acceleration enabled) (tested in Firefox 34.0.5 with the Flash player, and I got 60 FPS video at 720p in both cases).
I believe that is incorrect. 60 FPS only happens with DASH support which is HTML 5 only. If indeed he has that, I would like to see the debug stats of it when playback, because I don't think there is such thing as 60 FPS YT with Flash.
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Aktan wrote:
Anty-Lemon wrote:
I read the opposite in this thread
fsvgm777 wrote:
OK, so with the Flash player, you're pretty much guaranteed to get 60 fps video at 720p+ (provided you have hardware acceleration enabled) (tested in Firefox 34.0.5 with the Flash player, and I got 60 FPS video at 720p in both cases).
I believe that is incorrect. 60 FPS only happens with DASH support which is HTML 5 only. If indeed he has that, I would like to see the debug stats of it when playback, because I don't think there is such thing as 60 FPS YT with Flash.
I thought we cleared this up last month on page 1 of the thread.
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exileut wrote:
I thought we cleared this up last month on page 1 of the thread.
I found it very strange as well, but my logic was hey, fsvgm777 said it worked, so I might as well try it
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60fps in Firefox works for me now, must've been one of the latest updates.
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It's actually been working since Firefox 36 or 35, I believe. You just to toggle a few hidden settings.
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EEssentia wrote:
It's actually been working since Firefox 36 or 35, I believe. You just to toggle a few hidden settings.
It's forced now.
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You don't have to use the HTML5 player on youtube. You can switch it off at youtube.con/html5. Not that I see any reason to do so, though.
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I know what HTML5 is. I know how to get to it. I was stating that on my computer on Firefox, Chrome and IE that there is no option of disabling it, in other words.... I'm forced to use HTML5 now.
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