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I have submitted a movie before,in which i didn't use any systerm errors.The introduction of the game and the movie is described in details in the last submision. #2184: ECCO's NES Metal Max in 27:55.50

The difference and the BUG used

The main difference between the two movies is the BOSS fight.A bug was used to change the protagonist into a SUPERMAN,who can beat anybody in one turn.Now is the principle of the bug:at least two persons,at least two tanks,then use a health-recovering capsule(in the movie I bought four at the beginning) at the bottom of the menu's right side.Then the protagonist's strength could be changed from 20 to 2000 or more.BUT this bug has a shortcomings:just after one battle the protagonist will come to normal.AND in the very last BOSS fight with Noah he will stop the war and talk a lot than start the war again.So I can't use the bug here,and the last part of this movie is almost the same to the old run.
Another bug I used is copying tank.Not all the tanks can be copied.The only available one is the first tank in the town where I get the first partner.The partner is an engineman.When I arrived in this town he saw my tank,then he run to me and wanted to join my adventure.Exactly when he got onto my tank I opened the memu and choosed "got on".And then there'll be two same tanks.I use this bug to save the time to rent the new partner a new tank.

STORY

Another thing I want to explain is about the high building in the middle of the sea.Someone say they can't understand this movie.I guess it's about this building.
The story in the game is that:The protagonist,a normal boy has an unnormal dream-he want to be a super hero,to do something big,to save the world.But his father does not agree with his thought,his father think that's stupid.One day the boy says he want to be a hero again,his father can't bear it and become very very angry.The father drive his son out of the house.The next day,the boy wakes up,but he does not go home and apologize to his father.Instead he goes to a cave and find a tank and goes to a new town and find a partner.Then they go on exploring to find who is the monster master.
There's a long way to go,but they manage to overcome them.Two big blue emplacements is in the road,they have to destroy them to go forward.They go on traveling.They find a high building and in front of the building there is no way to go.
Then they go into the building.They meet a little girl.At first the girl things they are bad persons so she runs away.But after several running away the girl is tired.Then the protagonist says they are not bad persons they are good persons and what they want is to go through the sand before but there's no way.The girl says"Oh,you are lucky!My farther wants to go through,too.He is now on the top of the building and he want to set a BOMB to destroy this building.If the building falls into the sea then there will be a new way to go."The protagonist then went to the top of the building to find her father.They talk,then they go down,and the father go to set the bomb.Then they run out and the building falls and they can go on travelling.
Then they arrive at a river.Only the big blackguard、a very very bad person named WaLu has a boat to go through the river.But he is a bad person and he does not give it to the protagonist so they defeat WaLu and his understrapper.Then they go through the river,go through the grassland and go through the desert and defeat a robot who guard the toll-gate there.
Then they go deep into the earth and find the moster master who is a super computer who want to deracinate the human beings(How terrible it is!!!).So the protagonist defeat the computer who named Noah and then save the world.After this the protagonist come back home and tell his father that he want to come back home now.His father and his sister are all very happy.The whole family now get together again.Then the whole story is over.
That's it.If you have any other questions please put forward it and I will explain.

world map of this game

http://metal_max.ffsky.cn/rar/mm_map.rar
！Special Thanks
Thanks to my good friend 布兰里特 who tell me the very useful BUG.Thanks to EFC and the Metal Max forum of STAGE 1.
adelikat: Congratulations! Accepting for publication.
ShinyDoofy: Processing...
adelikat: Replaced submission file. This is 4 minutes longer but sends the game to the final ending credits.

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Posted: 3/1/2009 3:47 PM
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This topic is for the purpose of discussing #2193: ECCO's NES Metal Max in 26:09.55
Posted: 3/2/2009 7:59 AM
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GOOD moments: - Cloning a tank spontaneously! - 18 consecutive level-up fanfares after a single fight! - Extreme luck manipulation to avoid random encounters! (I happened to make a savestate during the movie and it resulted in a random battle immediately upon loading, heh.) - Very short boss fights! BAD moments: - Lots of walking. - Language barrier. OVERALL: - The good moments were funny enough that I didn't mind the walking parts being boring. - The technical quality of the run seems very good. - It was more entertaining than an average RPG TAS.
Posted: 3/2/2009 6:17 PM
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This would be one of those movies that would gain a lot from commentary/captions in the AVI. I suggest this.
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Posted: 3/3/2009 5:24 AM
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Oh I nearlly forgot.There's a world map of this game.It can be downloaded here. http://metal_max.ffsky.cn/rar/mm_map.rar
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Posted: 3/14/2009 6:55 AM
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I would love to speak some japanese to play this game, it looks quite entertaining, maybe ill learn some day. Nice run and fast paced RPG, the non linear sequence of events makes it very TAS-able.
Posted: 3/16/2009 3:29 PM
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Hmm, a short RPG again. Not so good when your perished team member wasn't revived in the end, but the STR glitch increased the awesomeness nonetheless.
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Posted: 3/17/2009 4:18 AM
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klmz wrote:
Hmm, a short RPG again. Not so good when your perished team member wasn't revived in the end, but the STR glitch increased the awesomeness nonetheless.
It's me that let the team member die.After that battle I don't need to use the BUG,so that guy is useless.And his existing will wast time,include the time for his level up in that battle if he was alive,and the time of choosing operation for him in the next several battles. So I died him purposely.I wrote this in the last submission,and some other introdution. http://tasvideos.org/2184S.html
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Posted: 3/17/2009 7:27 AM
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Well, as not reviving the perished guy doesn't change the ending, abusing death to save time is very sensible. And it's fun that his body got a static sprite.
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Posted: 4/6/2009 2:31 PM
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I wasn't able to get into this run. It had an awful lot of walking. Due to the language barrier, was able to understand what was going on when there was action. I couldn't tell there was a bug happening but the description of it sounds interesting at least. I am going to have to rate this low on entertainment.
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Posted: 4/7/2009 5:27 AM
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There are two bugs.You can compare this run with my last submission here. http://tasvideos.org/2184S.html I didn't use bug in that run.So the two bugs can improve the last movie by 5 minutes and 50 seconds. One is the tank copying.When the hero first meet the company and when the two boys are talking.If the occasion is taken exactly at a right frame a same tank can be made out.This bug will save the time for the new boy to rent a new tank.It's about 10-20 seconds. Another bug is to increase the hero's attack.The first boss fight--two big blue cannon is the most difficult fight in this game if you play it normally.Because in the latter boss fight you can use some special shells to make it easy.But in this fight you have nothing. In the last run I spent several minutes in the first boss fight but this time I only use several seconds(except the time for level up). The process of this bug is short:in the main list you choose the hero--select a cure capsule(I bought 4 capsules from the vending machine at the beginning of this movie)--use it not to a person but to the third tank(but we did not have a third tank at that time)--then the system will increase the hero's attack but not his HP.I think it's a program error because you use the person-cure item to a wrong place and it happendly cause some change on the hero's attack ability. Then the hero's attack can be increased from 50 to more than 2000.Then the big cannon can be defeated in just one turn ^^ All together this bug improve the three boss fight by more than 5 minutes.
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Posted: 4/13/2009 7:07 PM
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It seems to me that the fcm file ends too early as there seems to be a dialog at the end that's not covered. Given that I don't speak any Japanese, here are some screenshots and the end(?) of the game: /edit: I will delay further processing until this issue is solved.
Posted: 4/14/2009 12:10 AM
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What they said is like that： Father:"What? You say you will go back to became a super hero again?!Are you crazy?" Sister:"Dad,just let him go,he has his dream." Then the hero leave home again,and it come out some words that"the hero once again become a hunter,he will search for new challenge,for his dream". The BIG character “完” means the end. That's the ending.I end it as early as possible,after 4 minutes' ending movie it really needs several inputs to end it. I haven't met this problem before.I thought in the encoding process the encoder helping to make some inputs to end it is OK.
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Posted: 4/14/2009 12:21 AM
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ECCO wrote:
What they said is like that： Father:"What? You say you will go back to became a super hero again?!Are you crazy?" Sister:"Dad,just let him go,he has his dream." Then the hero leave home again,and it come out some words that"the hero once again become a hunter,he will search for new challenge,for his dream". The BIG character “完” means the end. That's the ending.I end it as early as possible,after 4 minutes' ending movie it really needs several inputs to end it. I haven't met this problem before.I thought in the encoding process the encoder helping to make some inputs to end it is OK.
No, the movie file must go until the final end screen. It's been accepted, so just add the input to the end, and it will be encoded.
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Posted: 4/14/2009 12:27 AM
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I have add it into the movie,now it's 26:10, 4 minutes longer.Thanks. How can I replace the old movie to the new one? or I just need to send the new movie to the encoder?
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Posted: 4/14/2009 12:29 AM
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ECCO wrote:
I have add it into the movie,now it's 26:10, 4 minutes longer.Thanks. How can I replace the old movie to the new one? or I just need to send the new movie to the encoder?
You need to send the file to me. By PM preferably.
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Posted: 4/14/2009 12:37 AM
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http://dehacked.2y.net/microstorage.php/info/179484672/Metal%20Max%20%20%28J%29.fcm it's here now
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Posted: 4/16/2009 2:51 AM
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This movie has been published. The posts before this message apply to the submission, and posts after this message apply to the published movie. ---- [1276] NES Metal Max by ECCO in 26:09.55
Posted: 4/17/2009 3:30 AM
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Here's a translation for the Super Famicom remake. It's pretty good.[/url]
Posted: 4/17/2009 4:15 PM
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Viewer wrote:
Here's a translation for the Super Famicom remake. It's pretty good.[/url]
I know,it's MMR-"Metal Max Returns".It dosen't have a official English version but someone has translated it.Oh I nearly forgot the translated version!I should have indicated this version to let more person know this great game! I also TASed MMR,too,but I used the official Japanese version.The inside-game length is 25:20.The ending movie is very long but it doesn't need any additional inputs to get a very end like the NES version.But I have several problems with this version. 1). The common battles can't be avoided.In my movie I had to encounter 17 common battles.That's not an entertainment. 2).No bug like the NES version.At least I have not found any program errors to help in the boss fight or other places.In my movie I spent more than 4 minutes in the first boss fight just like my first submission of the NES version.I think it's terrible. That's why I didn't submit that movie. But there's also some good points.The underground can save a lot of time,the walking speed of the hero is faster than NES version and the graphics are pretty good.I will try to find some way to improve it,especially on the boss fight.
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