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Truncated wrote:
We had this discussion about SMB1 also. Shorter time to completion won out in the end.
Like you said, it's only applied to SMB1. People can do it in other games if they want.
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I agree, people can do what they want. I always stopped input at the first frame possible, but now I'm tending more to stopping the input after actually completing the game (last hit hits the final boss). This way completion of the game cannot be prevented by pressing start or anything, and you'll have the shortest avi time.
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I go with "shortest input time that does not lengthen the avi time" In the case with monopoly I'd rather see shortest input time, so far it is the only game that I fell that way about.
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Baxter wrote:
I always stopped input at the first frame possible, but now I'm tending more to stopping the input after actually completing the game (last hit hits the final boss). This way completion of the game cannot be prevented by pressing start or anything, and you'll have the shortest avi time.
Me too!
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Honestly, with a game as short as this, I wouldn't mind if the AVI was a bit longer if it meant input time was less. The last submission of the NES Monopoly was like, 30 seconds, right? I really don't see a problem so long as the actual game itself isn't too long. Of course, there is the option of pausing the game before the last hit, but hey, that's more of a player's choice than anything whether or not to hit the pause button a good 90% of the time.
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I watched it now. Entertaining, but I don't think it should obsolete the current run since it's actually (quite a bit) longer.
Post subject: Monopoly - Own 7 computers play around
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Obviously this is no where near what a possible record could be, but from what I heard the fast way isn't exactly fun to watch. So I made a little something that might be more pleasing to the eye. I destroy all the computers by getting the Railroads, Boardwalk and Parkplace all in one round the board. If anyone wants to do a serious 7 computer own run, please feel free. I don't have the programming skills to break apart the randomizations. heh. Just a perfectionist I be ;) Anyway, enjoy. :) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IquY959xyO4
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That was pretty awesome! Out of curiosity, how long is the .fcm?
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Chamale wrote:
That was pretty awesome! Out of curiosity, how long is the .fcm?
Thanks! It is 14941 frames or 4:09 and some change.
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Although it became a bit repetitive, I liked the luck manipulation. I don't know if you have seen these movies. I made them long ago: Monopoly in 0:27 using trade Monopoly in 0:35 actual game time using trade Monopoly in 0:56 3 CPUs bankrupt Monopoly in 1:08 4 CPUs bankrupt Monopoly in 1:08 4 CPUs bankrupt alternate
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FractalFusion wrote:
Although it became a bit repetitive, I liked the luck manipulation. I don't know if you have seen these movies. I made them long ago: Monopoly in 0:27 using trade Monopoly in 0:35 actual game time using trade Monopoly in 0:56 3 CPUs bankrupt Monopoly in 1:08 4 CPUs bankrupt Monopoly in 1:08 4 CPUs bankrupt alternate
Yeah I don't know I could try to make it a little better. I've seen a few of your vids, I do like them. Would be interesting to see how you do 7 computers...heheh.
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Will it be entertaining if I bought every monopoly in the game and had my opponent(s) land on every single one of them?
If I could have a tool-assisted real life, I'd... Being a novice, I'd probably load the wrong state, have the IRS AI bankrupt me, and eventually make me want to kill myself and redo 11 years of hard work.
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No
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Post subject: Possible Monopoly TAS Ideas
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Hi, everyone! What would be good ideas for a Monopoly NES TAS (that would likely be published, of course)?
If I could have a tool-assisted real life, I'd... Being a novice, I'd probably load the wrong state, have the IRS AI bankrupt me, and eventually make me want to kill myself and redo 11 years of hard work.
Post subject: Re: Possible Monopoly TAS Ideas
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JWinslow23 wrote:
Hi, everyone! What would be good ideas for a Monopoly NES TAS (that would likely be published, of course)?
Sorry, but if you're not going to put in the effort to make a TAS that actually does something innovative, interesting and skillful, you should do something else.
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I think someone should set up 8 players with the right properties such that no one will ever agree on a deal, and the game will literally never end, then set yourself as a cpu player, and end input.
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exileut wrote:
I think someone should set up 8 players with the right properties such that no one will ever agree on a deal, and the game will literally never end, then set yourself as a cpu player, and end input.
That'd be an awesome submission in 163 days. Though I think once the deal ends with disagreement, then the next turn is played, and thus the potential to lose money and move the game forward.
Post subject: Possible TAS (publishable this time!)
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How about I make a TAS of the SNES version of this game and crash the game in some way?
If I could have a tool-assisted real life, I'd... Being a novice, I'd probably load the wrong state, have the IRS AI bankrupt me, and eventually make me want to kill myself and redo 11 years of hard work.
Post subject: Re: Possible TAS (publishable this time!)
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JWinslow23 wrote:
How about I make a TAS of the SNES version of this game and crash the game in some way?
No...
Post subject: Re: Possible TAS (publishable this time!)
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rog wrote:
JWinslow23 wrote:
How about I make a TAS of the SNES version of this game and crash the game in some way?
No...
Why?
If I could have a tool-assisted real life, I'd... Being a novice, I'd probably load the wrong state, have the IRS AI bankrupt me, and eventually make me want to kill myself and redo 11 years of hard work.
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Fastest crash runs aren't publishable. The run needs to beat the game.
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I get it. @CoolKirby is right, I haven't been meeting the site's goals ever since I signed up! I understand if you want to delete my account.
If I could have a tool-assisted real life, I'd... Being a novice, I'd probably load the wrong state, have the IRS AI bankrupt me, and eventually make me want to kill myself and redo 11 years of hard work.
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Your account can't be deleted, but you can be banned, so you'll want to be careful. I would recommend reading up on the Site Rules and considering what would make a great, entertaining TAS (maybe another game) before you submit another run that gets you yelled at.
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CoolKirby wrote:
I would recommend reading up on the Site Rules and considering what would make a great, entertaining TAS (maybe another game) before you submit another run that gets you yelled at.
But other than River City Ransom for NES (which I honestly don't understand the plot of), I can't think of anything! I want ideas on NES games with publishable runs!
If I could have a tool-assisted real life, I'd... Being a novice, I'd probably load the wrong state, have the IRS AI bankrupt me, and eventually make me want to kill myself and redo 11 years of hard work.
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Have a look at this thread or this page.