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This is my Track and Field TAS, an attempt to improve upon the existing track and field movies. There are 3 published movies: Arc's, Phil's U Version, Phil's E version. The goals are a bit scattered between these movies and I felt a single movie could combine the best of these movies and leave us with 1 polished publication. In addition, 3 events were improved with new tricks and better optimization (100 Meter dash, 110 Hurdles, and Triple Jump)

Goals in this movie

1) Attempt to get the best score/time/length in each event at least once.
2) To show the major consequences of seemingly minor mistakes in play or strategy. Otherwise, simply showing off quirks/oddities and hidden bonuses in the game.
4) Aim for fastest time without interfering with 1 or 2. (This is essentially a "Doesn't WASTE time goal. Simply put, I do my actions effeciently and find the first frame possible for handling menus, transitions, pausing, etc.)
These goals are most similar to Arc' movie.

Event by event comparison

My primary goal was to get the highest score/length/time (whichever is measured) in each event in 1 of the attempts.
  • 100 Meter run
arc - 7.20 phil (U) - 7.20 phil (E) - 7.20 adelikat - 6.92 (ties Phil's WIP, posted in the track & field forum topic)
  • Long Jump
arc - 14:66 phil U - 14:66 phil E - 14:66 adelikat - 14:66
  • 110 Hurdles
arc- 9.59 phil U - 9.49 phil E - 9.48 adelikat - 9.25
  • Javeline Throw
All movies - 137.65
  • Skeet Shooting
arc - 26300 phil u - 26400 phil e - 28200 adelikat - 28200
  • Triple Jump
arc - 25.01
phil U - 25.39
phil E - 25.39
adelikat - 25.72
  • Archery:
arc - 4800 phil U - 5800 phil E - 5800 adelikat - 5800
High Jump: all 2.26

Event Details (improvement and explanations for each attempt)

  • 100 Dash
I used a pause trick discovered by Phil. By pausing at strategic moments, you can get an extra momentum boost and lower the clock time at the end. This results in a 6.92 time instead of 7.20
  • Long Jump
Attempt 1 - I get a 9.99 to uncover a hidden bonus Attempt 2 - I get a maximum distance with a 46 degree angle (1 off from perfect). To show the differences between small inaccuracies (14.13). Attempt 3 - Get the full maximum of 14.66
  • 110 Hurdles
I got a 9.25 times instead of 9.48 by using the same pause trick as in the 100 Meter dash.
  • Javelin Throw
Attempt 1: Get a bonus by hitting the top of the screen and having the javelin fall to the ground. I did so while getting the minimum distance of 8.9
Attempt 2: Get maximum distance, 137.65
Attempt 3: I repeated attempt 1. Mainly because doing a 44 or 46 degree angle would have only been a small distance, and such a throw is quite long and dull. Without something significant to show off, I felt it was best to wrap up this attempt quickly.
  • Skeet Shooting
Attempt 1 - Get maximum score
Attempt 2 - Hit every target at the last possible moment. I hit the UFO at the earliest frame which avoids the second bonus attempt. This avoids redundancy and show this difference between hitting it with the first or second position.
Attempt 3 - I miss every target by 1 frame. Showing how significant a small inaccuracy can be. (Spoiler alert: I do hit the last target to do something unexpected and to also end the attempt slightly earlier).
  • Triple Jump
Attempt 1 - I get a 18.88 in order to uncover a secret bonus Attempt 2 - I get a maximum of 25.72. This beats the previous TAS record of 25.39 Attempt 3 - I show a quirk in the game that allows you to make the 3rd jump from past the dirt as Arc did in his first attempt. Normally, if you land past the marker on before the final jump, the attempt is stopped immediately as a foul. But if you begin jumping at the last frame and get a 45 degree angle every time you can jump right past the dirt! It looks like the game didn't intend this to be possible, but I am not sure.
  • Archery
Attempt 1 - I make a perfect shot every time (600 pts). And get a seemingly high score.
Attempt 2 - Get a High score by doing sub-optimal shots (400) in order to get a bonus to appear (As did Phil in his movies).
Attempt 3 - I have fun by showing near misses and hits. Basically to goof around.
  • High Jump
Attempt 1 - get the high score of 2.26. Interestingly, any attempt that makes it over the bar results in a 2.26 regardless. I wonder if this is some bug. Especially when your time to beat is 2.36!
Attempt 2- After a great start the player seems to have lost it (perhaps from a little early celebration?) and makes a painful mistake.
Attempt 3 - Just keeps on gettin' worse for the poor boy :)

Obsoletion

My intend is a first ever, triple obsoletion. So hear is the logic behind each one:
  • Arc's
Like Arc's movie, I attempt to get the maximum score/time/length in each event on at least 1 attempt. On the other attempts, I show off differences in playing strategy, and quirks. I feel I do this equal/better than Arc's movie. In addition, my movie improves the max score/time/length in 5 out of 8 events (compared to his only).
  • Phil's U version
Phil's U movie attempts to get a max score in each event only. He does sacrifice the final high score to show off other possibilities as do I.
My movies improves the single event scores on 3 events, 100 dash, 110 hurdles, triple jump.
Devil's advocate: Phil's U movie gets a higher final score than mine. Of course, if this is taken as the primary goal, it fails to Phil's E version.
  • Phil's E version
Again, mine improves 3 of the events. It fails to get a higher final score, but this was intentional in order to show off other aspects of the game.
This one did not obsolete either of the other two movies because at the time, E movies could not do this. The precedence has since changed however.
Enjoy, adelikat

adelikat: Canceling this submission. My primary goal was to achieve the best possible result in each event but I have failed in this (see Phil's submission.

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Enjoyed watching. Yeppers vote from moi! Wow, 1st vote plus 1st reply.
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I'm gonna vote 'no' to this because some attempts you just wasted in order to get it over and done with like the javelin and high jump. You should never throw such things in a way just becuase you feel in may bore the audience. Do something creative even if its falling marginally short by the oposite angle. For example in javelin try throwing the javelin so it stays airborne the longest without getting the bonus, or clear the bar in extreme ways. Also wouldn't 2 players make a good option?
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I found this more interesting than the submitted ones...
Sorry, my english is really bad...
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Though I wasn't very entertained, I think this should definitely be published to obsolete the other three shit factories (no offense, Arc).
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AKA wrote:
I'm gonna vote 'no' to this because some attempts you just wasted in order to get it over and done with like the javelin and high jump. You should never throw such things in a way just becuase you feel in may bore the audience. Do something creative even if its falling marginally short by the oposite angle. For example in javelin try throwing the javelin so it stays airborne the longest without getting the bonus, or clear the bar in extreme ways.
1) I don't waste any attempt in the high jump. I did a good attempt, a bad attempt, then a worse attempt. This was intentional. Perhaps you don't find this the most entertaining option, and that is valid. I can't please everyone when it comes to something that subjective. But it isn't fair to say I waste an attempt. 2) Re: javelin through. I guess technically you could say I "waste" attempt 3. But I look at it as me choosing the most entertaining (least unentertaining) thing I could do for attempt 3. Longest attempt without getting a bonus is not a good goal. No one would no this is what is happening which would make it look very arbituary, and more like I wasted it. And, the bonus is achieved by hitting the ceiling, not by length. I could do a normal throw I guess. But how far, and why? I don't want to seem random. If I were going to do it, it would have to be a 44 or 46 degree throw which would make a very very long throw (like the high score one). I didn't feel it was worth it in this case.
Also wouldn't 2 players make a good option?
Two players would be nice for the dash and the 110 hurdles, but in the other 6 events, the players must take turns. That is 3 tries for each player. I think this would do more harm than good. 6 tries is going to be repetitive especially when there isn't must to do in each event.
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Why were any of these ever accepted? I vote for it to be accepted and then adelikat to request that it be taken off the site after obsoleting the other 3 movies. This game is just so bad for a TAS.
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Seemed a bit cliché at times (heh, in Track & Field?!) but I think this is as good as it's going to get. By cliché I mean doing certain things over and over again (not that you could really make it any more different) but that's okay, this game is repetitive and really doesn't deserve much attention in the sense that it's not very entertaining. Either way, yes vote, good work.
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I was semi-entertained. But if this can obsolete the other 3 then that would be cool. (voting meh)
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This TAS was entertaining to me because it demonstrates many interesting things from a very simple game. Not only was the game pushed to its limits (which is not saying that much, unfortunately), but there was some extra time for playaround and to show the bonuses. I definately laughed when the third triple jump attempt went past the sand pit, and when the poor guy missed the high jump :) The only boring part was the archery event, simply because it was repetitive and there wasn't much possibility for varying entertainment. I'm giving this a solid yes vote.
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Vote yes for FCEU! and squirrel
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This was pretty fun to watch. I liked how the story evolved with the player getting worse and worse. Perhaps he was out celebrating his other records a little too much the other night, and got back a little hang-over for the high-jump. ;P Yes vote, I feel that this should obsolete the current 3 movies.
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Voted Yes for entertainment ^_^ And a definite yes for triple obsoletion. I agree wholeheartedly that this video succeeds in doing what the others did their best to. My yes to obsoletion is nothing against those who TAS'd before, as for their times, their attempts were publish worthy. This just happens to incorporate the best of everything as one. Mr. Kelly R. Flewin
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About the javelin throw, this would have been my personel envisionment, Attempt 2 shows what I was trying to do on attempt 1 and attempt 3 tries to go for a perfect throw (which sadly isn't perfect in this case). http://dehacked.2y.net/microstorage.php/info/1799716604/adelikat-trackandfield%28U%29.fcm
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Better then the other three. Yes vote here.
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