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Lets get back to the root of evil, this game is the prequel to Symphony Of The Night, its the first castlevania using cdrom, and was never release in usa / europe.
There is a SNES port of this game called Dracula X (or Vampire Kiss in pal version), but its nowhere near his big brother.

Summary

  • Aim For Fastest Time
  • Use a Suboptimal Route (Regular Stages only)
  • Takes Damage To Save Time
  • Manipulates Luck
  • First submission featuring mc2 mednafen
  • Emulator used: Mednafen Mednafen-RR revision 249 (mc2)
  • Unofficial Encodes [1]
  • Frames:89962 Lag:xxxx Re-records:31233

Notes



Long story for short: maria should go faster (any% is half done as i wrote this), and shes also faster in the 100% run, so whe wanted a richter run
Richter run start to be different than maria directly after the first boss
The key subweapon seem to be the most powerfull (x2 whip damage...), also richter look like chuck norris and it surely is hilarous to see him key-to-death most bosses (and dracula!)

Ram Watch

Copy/Paste this in notepad and save as watch.wch, then load in mednafen

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00000 00000094 b s 0 hearts
00001 00000098 b s 0 health
00002 00000093 b s 0 weapon
00003 00001E10 b u 0 X Cam 2nd byte
00004 00001E0C b u 0 X Cam
00005 00001E30 b u 0 X Subpixel
00006 00000720 b u 0 y pos
00007 00000CD0 b u 0 y pos
00008 00000D28 b u 0 Y Subpixel
00009 00000742 b s 0 Boss HP
0000A 000012B8 b s 0 Boss HP
000B 00001E10 b u 0 X Cam 2nd byte

Closings

Thanks to paul_t and adelikat, whe worked all together on rondo, and it was realy fun, even tought i made this one on my own side and im submiting alone, whe mutualy helped eatch others well, and it end up very efficient to have 2 extra pairs of experienced eyes :D
A svn was setup to collaborate in making rondo movie(s), you can have a check on it here : http://code.google.com/p/rondoofblood/
arukAdo Canceled because of recent findings, maria been slower than richter, this "entertainement" run doesnt make anymore sences for now, richter will get its own run anyway, eventually if everybody cry out loud enought for stage3/4 over the fastest route... who knows...

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Posted: 7/8/2009 5:00 PM
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Yeah, but like all good things there are ways around that. ^^;; But the fact that it's non-free and closed source is why it isn't used for TASing.
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Posted: 7/8/2009 5:05 PM
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At 12:28 in the youtube movie, wouldn't it be faster to walk a bit to the front at the start of the room, and jump onto the ledge in one jump?
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Posted: 7/8/2009 5:09 PM
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In a single jump i would not reach enought right to get on the stair afterward, or would require a flipback and its a bit slower than regular jump in that case I added a stage4' in submision, you can watch it here : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=39-crgdx0wY This goes faster obviously, but remember that anyway maria will go faster than richter, in that regard, i tought something more entertaining like doing the regular stage4 was better, whe wait feedback on it
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Posted: 7/8/2009 5:30 PM
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so it is possible. there's no excuse for not using this route, then. this is still a speedrun, after all. the speed/entertainment tradeoff for doing Stage 4 is too great. tell me, do you think Stages 2 and 3 are more entertaining than 2' and 3'? if not, why didn't you use them? as you said to me, entertainment is subjective. but you have to realize that the viewers' opinion of entertainment is more important than yours. they're the ones voting after all. not everyone will agree with you. Saturn should know what i'm talking about. anyway, the Dullahan fight in this one ends with him using his desperation move, whereas the original submission doesn't. is taking the extra damage worth it?
Posted: 7/8/2009 7:19 PM
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I'd prefer stage 4', sure it's not very entertaining but stage 4 wasn't the most entertaining either. And you do aim for speed after all, even though it is with a suboptimal character.
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Posted: 7/8/2009 9:35 PM
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I guess I'll in my vote for stage 4. I think it is the most entertaining level in the movie. If this were an any% run I would be worried about a 28 second tradeoff, but it isn't. It is an extra movie to show off a suboptimal character. And Stage 4 shows Richtor at his finest.
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Posted: 7/8/2009 9:40 PM
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I also want to mention that whe knew the stage4' was faster, and that by doing this you remove minotaur boss, witch i founded realy cool coz hes also in sotn... so i like him Its all about entertainement wise i speak, i realize now i should have simply say "aim for entertainement" and not "aim for fastest time" (even tought its obvious this movie is "fast") About theres "no excuses", well, i dont need any excuses ... i have both movies anyway Any% run aiming for fastest time use maria after stage2, but richter is somewhat the hero, and whe think he should have his own "solo" run, where obviously speed will not be the primary entertainement factor
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Posted: 7/8/2009 10:37 PM
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adelikat wrote:
If this were an any% run I would be worried about a 28 second tradeoff, but it isn't.
Oh? It isn't now? *confused* I guess these movies are not any% as well then: http://tasvideos.org/1129M.html http://tasvideos.org/1246M.html http://tasvideos.org/1222M.html Probably not this one, either, because a Magician run would be faster. You never know these days! :o
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Posted: 7/8/2009 10:57 PM
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Thanks for posting the Stage 4' route.
do you think Stages 2 and 3 are more entertaining than 2' and 3'? if not, why didn't you use them?
Well, obviously he can't take 2' since that prevents getting the key, which has higher attack power. Jumping to Stage 3' instead of Stage 3 might be shorter, then continuing on to Stage 4'. Though we both know how much Bone Golem sucks (especially since he won't have a high attacking weapon, like axe/seiryu). ^^;;
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Posted: 7/8/2009 11:58 PM
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moozooh: I think there is a difference (though I don't know the game too well). I think that you can get Maria on a normal playthrough, and that she is not a bonus character that you get after completing the game.
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Posted: 7/9/2009 12:00 AM
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Cpadolf wrote:
moozooh: I think there is a difference (though I don't know the game too well). I think that you can get Maria on a normal playthrough, and that she is not a bonus character that you get after completing the game.
You would be right. Also, we are working on an any% run (using maria) as we speak.
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Posted: 7/9/2009 12:02 AM
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@cpadolf: You can play her shortly after you rescue her. When you save her in Stage 2, you need to either: a - Suicide until game over. b - get through the door leading to the pre-boss room and then reset (soft reset is Select + Run). (PSP version you just need to save her then reset via the menu, as it has immediate save) After that, the game data is saved, and you can play as her.
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Posted: 7/9/2009 12:05 AM
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arukAdo wrote:
search in mednafen.cfg for pce.bios and give him the path mednafen.exe -mov somewhere\richter.mc2 then pick up your cue when prompted... Also its pretty useless to try to go in a demonstration that stage4' is faster (i say this for sirvg), whe knew it from the begining... and the movie using stage4' will be ready at the same time than the maria one, this week hopefully I might also minor edit this one if i find a way to get more stable on shaft boss, i had countless desync on it
I think my biggest problem in trying to watch this movie in original form is that I can't get this version of mednafen rr to open either the cue/bin or cue/iso images I have of this game. Older versions of mednafen (rr and regular) can do it fine. This newer mednafen rr also seems to be much pickier about file names and paths in terms of spaces and characters than other mednafen versions.
Posted: 7/9/2009 8:22 PM
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Theres some kinda of major breakdown that none of us did excepted, maria will not go faster than richter :/ Witch is very disapointing So well im gonna be canceling this one
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Posted: 7/9/2009 8:24 PM
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Wait, why are you canceling this one then? To make it faster?
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Posted: 7/9/2009 8:26 PM
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Coz whe all did tought maria would go faster in any%, i now have some rushs that proove otherwise, so theres not any point in doing a "entertainement" run for richter (whe tought originaly whe would never have to use richter for "speed" purpose, making this run for the sake of showing a full run with richter, coz like whe all know hes realy badass and a cousin of chuck norris)
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Posted: 7/9/2009 8:37 PM
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there are a lot of reasons why Richter is not awesome. and the Chuck Norris joke stopped being funny a LONG time ago. that's very surprising to hear Richter is faster than Maria. before this run was made, it was a definite that Maria was faster. she still is when not TASing, i would assume, but the backflip cancelling threw a wrench into that for TAS, i guess. the rescue Maria cutscene probably doesn't help either.
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Satoryu wrote:
there are a lot of reasons why Richter is not awesome.
Sure a little girl with a pink dress is nice... i dont fear to say richter is awesome and more coherent with the game... witch is about to kill dracula not going for some candy
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Posted: 7/9/2009 9:22 PM
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Satoryu wrote:
there are a lot of reasons why Richter is not awesome. and the Chuck Norris joke stopped being funny a LONG time ago. that's very surprising to hear Richter is faster than Maria. before this run was made, it was a definite that Maria was faster. she still is when not TASing, i would assume, but the backflip cancelling threw a wrench into that for TAS, i guess. the rescue Maria cutscene probably doesn't help either.
That and that Richter can kill everything WITH A FRICKEN KEY. Seriously, who'da thunk that was the best special weapon?
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Posted: 7/9/2009 9:29 PM
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Ill still persist to say this movie was the most entertaining route, but well, curse me richter is faster after all... not by much tought 3' win over 3 but by a very small ammount, and everything goes less smoothly, like the boss in stage2 or miniboss in cemetery, so clearly its by far the less entertaining route imo
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Posted: 7/9/2009 9:30 PM
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Posted: 7/9/2009 9:45 PM
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....but why are you guys arguing about the fastest character? I believe TASVideos is quite open-minded about different characters in different movies. See Castlevania: Bloodlines for a example.
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Posted: 7/9/2009 9:47 PM
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Its not comparable, in bloodlines you select the character, here you reset to use it after you save her in stage2 (that what the key is suppose to be used for... !!!) Maria is good to go for 100%, dont worry too much i guess A any% maria would need a sram since she wont beat richter, no real point beside eventually start from begin with her, and it would be pretty pointless since 100% is obviously something richter cant compete on A 100% richter would be quite boring, so the any% is perfect for him
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Posted: 7/9/2009 10:18 PM
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Well, there countless movies about unlockable characters in the site, including all instances of metroid-Castlevanias But, then again, it's you choice
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Posted: 7/9/2009 10:37 PM
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arukAdo wrote:
3' win over 3 but by a very small ammount,
now that's a shocker. i know 3' is really short, but i thought the Bone Golem fight would outdo that gain.
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