This topic is for the purpose of discussing #3576: Abahbob's NES Dick Tracy "any%" in 19:15.88

Dick Tracy was based on a comic strip. The movie came later. Voting no due to ignorance of this basic fact. Except yes.

Sorry, I didn't look into it. I was basing off of what I had remembered from that old AVGN video. I changed my submission, thanks for informing me.

The games were released as tie-ins the movie, which was based on the comics.

I'm not too familiar with the game, but I recently rewatched the AVGN review. Are you getting the clues in order? I'm unable to tell based on the run but the review says they can be obtained in any order as long as the arrest comes last. A couple more things: Would frame-precise jumping cancel out the landing animation? Seems like a fair amount of time could be saved by constantly jumping in certain places. It might look a little odd or get annoying, so I understand if it's just an aesthetic choice. Could the heart be obtained in a way that would take less time to get and use than it would to avoid damage in the sidescrolling sections? I've always wanted to see a run for this game just because of the AVGN review, and I think it's quite well done for a first TAS! Hopefully those potential improvements will be of some help. An improved version would get a yes from me.

It looks like a lot of work was put into this. Unfortunately, it's just too repetitive. If it were less than ten minutes, I might vote yes, but over 20 minutes of the same thing over and over again got very tedious. I won't vote no, as I do like all games to be represented if possible, but I can't vote yes either. Therefore, meh...

Interesting TAS there. The game seems to be really limiting you in many places, but the run itself was entertaining enough. Yes vote here.

This TAS enough boring, but i vote yes.

Samsara, I did get the clues out of order. The only limitation for the order is at the end, where the clue is a keyring and must be obtained before being able to receive a clue at the bank. I repeat the bank because it is necessary to receive both the clues there. With jumps, even a frame perfect jump reverts to landing speed. When I keep speed, it is achieved by landing right past a ledge and jumping while over said ledge. Also, with the heart, I haven't looked into it. I have pondered getting it, but it seems that it would take longer to get than save time. As I said, I really haven't looked into it.

I ended up voting Meh. I would be fine with it being published as it would be another, seemingly, technically sound movie to be posted for the NES but voted Meh instead of yes because it was damn boring. I made it about 10 minutes in before I began hopping around until the end.

Extremely boring and repetitive. Voting NO.

Pretty long and repetitive, good music and gameplay. Voting meh.

Oh wow, this is one of those games that I almost forgot I played as a kid. Honestly, since some of the fun/frustration of the game for me was getting lost finding which address to visit, some of the entertainment was lost on me (I may just be strange though). Nevertheless, this run makes the game more fluid than it really is. It also is amusing how Dick Tracy will shoot lots of bad guys, but yet he insists on properly locking up the actual culprits. I'm voting Yes, but I imagine a lot of that vote is nostalgia.

I'm voting Yes, but I imagine a lot of that vote is nostalgia.

I really enjoy your descriptions of why you make the votes you make. Makes it clear and concise why the decision was made. This is the first time in my memory where I didn't vote the same as you either before or after reading your descritpion. It feels strange.

Bad game choice really. 19 minutes is too much for a TAS like this.

om, nom, nom... want more!

Sadly, I think the NES library is pretty tapped out of good titles worthy of publication.

We will see about that. Challenge accepted

Sadly, I think the NES library is pretty tapped out of good titles worthy of publication.

If such idea crosses your mind when judging, you should abstain from judging new NES games. Pessimistic expectations is one kind of bias.

@ AnS

Fortunately, I think the NES library is full of good titles worthy of publication.

Fixed. ;)

@ jlun2

Fortunately, I think the NES library still has lots of hidden gems worthy of publication.

Fixed.

Honestly, I feel the NES library still has a lot to offer. I'm currently working on two other games, one of which I feel is promising. We just need a list of games without TASes. This game just seemed interesting because of how much bad rep it had gotten. An open mind is the start of TASing, and I plan to keep working until I make a dent in the remaining NES games.

Why is Dick Tracy racist in this game?

I realize I'm making this post quite some time since this TAS submission was cancelled, however at least 20 seconds can be saved by jumping in the water immediately after acquiring the clues in the 9th & F and 9th & J pier stages, since doing so ejects you from the stage but still gives you credit for getting the clue. I also realize this is probably not enough of a time saver to justify creating a new TAS for it, but I figured it was still worth mentioning.

I realize I'm making this post quite some time since this TAS submission was cancelled, however at least 20 seconds can be saved by jumping in the water immediately after acquiring the clues in the 9th & F and 9th & J pier stages, since doing so ejects you from the stage but still gives you credit for getting the clue. I also realize this is probably not enough of a time saver to justify creating a new TAS for it, but I figured it was still worth mentioning.

1 frame is already an improvement. Thank you for mentioning this!