This topic is for the purpose of discussing #3383: SuperMario12's DS WarioWare: Touched! in 29:50.84

Lots of speed is involved in this run, but you should also consider fun factor. Watching someone beat the minigame as fast as possible isn't really a good idea for a TAS. Since the minigames don't end when you complete the task, you should probably be crafty with how you complete them. In fact, runs like these shouldn't consider time as a factor. Think Brain Age, for example. As for now, I'd say no vote. EDIT: Also consider that this game isn't a good choice to TAS

Bad game choice. Voting no.

Fantastic game! Horribly boring TAS. Voting no.

I voted no. For starters, this game makes for a bad TAS, as shown by MUGG's TAS of the first Wario Ware game. As each micro-game takes the same amount of time to complete no matter what you do, the only room for possible improvements is in the navigation of the menus and the boss stages, neither of which are particularly technically impressive. So, these factors, it's hard to vote any other way than no. The other question is whether this, like its predecessor, should be put in Gruefood Delight. Sadly, I'm not too confident in this. The reason why MUGG's run is fun to watch is that he completes each micro-game in the most impressive way possible. Your run, on the other hand, finishes tasks in the fastest way possible, making the vast majority of the movie play itself. Just look at 5:09: why keep the plate straight up at all times when you can stop spinning and pick it up right before it falls? You tried to do some interesting things with the bosses, such as Ashley, but others were incredibly boring, such as Kat and Ana's. I feel that if you redid this run with entertainment as a higher priority that it would be a lot more fun to watch. That said, it'd be very hard to make a run of this game that is publishable. Good luck with your future runs! P.S. I'm not sure what you did even constitutes as beating the game...you unlocked the credits and then triggered them.

nah, bad game choice. I believe the only WarioWare game that maybe can provide some entertaining TAS is the Twisted one.

I'll watch it full later, but I'll say 'meh'. Bad game choice. I'm also TASing WarioWare movie, but not submitting it. For now my record is 29:07 (TASed, of course). WarioWare Twisted is my best unrelased TAS. BEFORE you do TAS, you must to discuss it, is that a good game choice.

A game where the speed isn't impressive shouldn't have speed as a goal

I say Meh. Yes, it's fast. But, there's no real skill involved per say. The game itself is not meant to be TASed because it's not entertaining in that way.

om, nom, nom... juicy!

Interesting to see it back up for the Vault. Warioware is an awesome game, and while it's not a good game for tasing overall, it definitely has it's moments.

The gameplay still needs to standout from non-assisted play.

I highly doubt it does.

There is not a lot of time gained from TASing this game compared to playing it. Also it does not lend itself to be entertaining to watch. I would not recommend this to be published.

Yeah, I'm currently also leaning towards rejecting it. WarioWare simply has too little to gain in time over any non-assisted run, barring menu navigation and, from the looks of it, some of the boss stages. The question, however, is whether those boss stages would make enough of a difference to make it acceptable as a speedrun. I'm still leaning towards no on this.

I support rejecting this. There needs to be something TAS worthy. There isn't.

Why do we have Vault, again.

Why do we have Vault, again.

For speedrun records. However, it's debatable whether a WarioWare run even has merit as a speedrun record, considering the vast majority of gameplay is entirely on a fixed timer. Note that the Wiki: Vault technical guidelines state that a Vault run must be distinguishable from a real-time speedrun, timewise. While I don't know of a real-time speedrun for this game, it does not appear like it would meet that criteria. This is why I don't consider it Vault-legible.

Why do we have Vault, again.

Well, the vault is for Tool-Assisted Speedruns, but this game is fixed in length, making a speedrun pointless. So then we have the moon/stars tier for superplays, but this game doesn't have much chance of entertaining the viewers.