On one hand, DMTM really is quick to claim credit for glitches. On the other hand, he did find some amazing zips (for example, Launch Base 2) with gives credence to his claim.
On Death Egg 2 I discovered you could get into the wall as Tails using any of the downwards traveling stairs but never found any way to activate horizontal underflow, it was after seeing DMTMs Sonic run I and remembering the way jumping inside the wall on FB1 as Knux allowed me to move downwards that looked into it again and managed to activate underflow. I then showed the gmv to DMTM in hopes that he could help me into the boss room in a position that was useful, he said he didnt think it was possible, after another while playing around with my y position I discovered that if you were at just the right height you could zip left into the gravity switcher. I think DMTMs claim is that he discovered horizontal underflow on DE2 but the Tails strat I came up with by myself. Yes he has found many great tricks and glitches, full credit to him for making so many great finds, I only have 2 but I'm quite proud I've made any contribution at all. Going from watching the game be broken and having my jaw dropped not even a year ago to finding stuff by myself. I don't really mind if someone else finds something 1st, I just love watching the game get destroyed, but when I discover something new myself I'd like people to know it was my find. I'm not great at speed running or TASing but at least I can do something to help. Sorry about the length.
Who was the first to discover horizontal underflow? Was it discovered during real-time gameplay, or maybe while tasing, or maybe it was predicted after analysing the game's code and then actually performed? Really curious about the history of such a useful trick.
Great, man! This reminds me of Qwerty’s old 100 ring collection TAS, but this is way cooler! As a Sonic TASer too, I realize how hard is to make such runs, but anyway I am waiting for updates from this project :)
Thanks man. And yes, working on these projects take a lot of patience (By finding the fastest path to get the rings). I see that you know what I mean because you made a video with only 1 act and it has around 5000 rerecords.
Is it known how you were able to just land on those spikes with no damage near the end of that video LTRP?
those spikes are actually very strange. It’s not possible to pass through them by bringing them off screen. Another weirdness is with making a spin dash on the top of those spikes after getting damage: there is high possibility that you will not move after making spin dash.
There is a splitting passageway which leads to two almost identical and terrible routs. And thouse routes have that particular problem along them.
The highest we could get was 2574 and you need to be at 2572 to squeeze through that little gap in the ceiling.
During our attempts we came up with a few decent ways to gain speed using jumps and gliding only, but in these partivular places they've only got us that far.
So here we are, in need of help because thouse two pixels of height are almost the only obstacle in trying to make a successful arrowless walkthrough of S&K part.
We'll be very grategul to anyone who can help or at least give it a try. Thank you so much!
