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Braid is a famous platform/puzzle indie game, featuring several time manipulation gimmicks. I hope you will enjoy this run!

Game objectives

  • Emulator used: Hourglass-r81
  • Running the speedrun mode
  • Aims at fastest in-game time

Emulator configuration

  • Runtime > App Locale > Force English locale
  • If the game breaks on startup, set "Multithreading and Wait Sync" to "Allow"
If you want to use save states, you also have to set:
  • Sound > Disable DirectSound Creation > checked
  • Runtime > Performance > Store Video Memory in Savestates > unchecked
  • Runtime > Performance > Store Guarded Memory Pages in Savestates > unchecked
Arrow keys for controlling Tim are buggy with hourglass. I'm mapping arrow keys to zqsd. Here is the game folder checksum and my DxDiag. I also used the DRM-free version of the game because Hourglass does not work with Steam.

Differences between the two modes

When you finish the game, you unlock the speedrun mode which can be accessed using the menu. In this mode, you have to beat the game like in the normal mode, but you have a timer in the upper right portion of the screen.
The timer in the speedrun mode is always running except during:
  • loading screens
  • puzzles
  • the end of the last stage of each world (except world 1), after you touch the flag
There are a few differences between the two modes:
  • In the normal mode, when you first access a stage, there is a long loading screen (about 2 seconds). If you go again to this stage, the loading screen is much shorter (12 frames). In the speedrun mode, you always get the short loading screen.
  • In the normal mode, you can at any time go to the menu to exit a stage. You keep all the puzzle pieces you collected from that stage. In the speedrun mode, you are not allowed to exit using the menu.
  • In the normal mode, you can rewind in the main hub and in each world hub. It is not possible in the speedrun mode.

About puzzles and why did I choose to do the speedrun mode

There are 5 puzzles to solve in this game. On the Windows version of the game, you can use as the controls:
  • the keyboard
  • the mouse
  • a joystick if you have one plugged in
The fastest time you can do to solve these puzzles depends in the controller you are using. The mouse is obviously the fastest way to solve these puzzles. The joystick is rather good, and the keyboard is awful. Here comes the point: the software that was used to make this TAS does not support recording mouse inputs. So I know I can't be even close to optimal on every puzzle. If I would do the normal game, using the standard TAS time counting, I would count portions of the run where a human being could beat me. This is why I chose to run the speedrun mode, and to aim for the fastest in-game time, because puzzles are not counted in the total time. So I'm using puzzles to make a little entertainment.
There is another issue: the speedrun mode is not available from the start, you have to beat the game once to unlock it. That is why I provide a file input which beats (poorly) the game ([dead link removed]). There is another alternative using hex editing: if you change the 28th byte of a save file from 0x00 to 0x02, it will unlock this mode.
As a side note, when the game starts, I need to go to the menu to launch the speedrun mode. I'm not doing it as soon as possible (waiting a few seconds) because the TAS software desync very often at the beginning of the game, and skip the first few inputs. This might be due to an inconsistent loading time.

Tricks

Corner boost

When landing on an edge, Tim can get a boost depending on the position where he fell and his vertical velocity. There are two types of boost depending on the impact position and the configuration of the edge:
  • the small boost is when Tim hit the flat surface for one frame (seen by a walking sprite) then get launch in the air. The max speed of this boost is about 140 % of Tim's full speed. The trajectory is always the same whatever the impact coordinates: Tim looses all vertical velocity on the impact. After this boost, Tim can perform a jump (see below)
  • the big boost is when Tim doesn't hit the flat surface but only the border (only in-air sprites). The max speed of this boost is much higher, and depends on Tim's vertical velocity, which is converted into horizontal velocity. If Tim is on the platform that has the corner, the max speed obtained by doing a big boost is around 175 % of Tim's full speed. It can be much higher (> 250 %) if Tim is falling from a higher distance, and/or if Tim already has a higher initial speed (when doing multiple corner boosts, for example). The trajectory depends on the impact location, where a varying portion of vertical velocity is converted to horizontal velocity. Big boost is easier to obtain when the edge is round. Big boost on platforms (as in 2-3) or on clouds seems to be impossible to perform.

Air jumps

When Tim is on a jump-able ground and fall from it, he can still jump for next 9 frames. There are a few variations for this trick:

Ladder jump

Instead of falling, Tim can start climbing up or down a ladder. He will keep the jump-able state during the first few frames. This trick is mainly used in stage 3-5.

Invisible platform jump

If Tim was on a platform, then latter rewind to that moment, he will still be able to jump even if the platform is not there anymore.

Corner jump

This trick is the source of most skips in this run. After a small boost only, Tim can jump during 10 frames starting from the first in-air frame. To perform this jump, you need to press the opposite direction for a varying number of frames. For example, if Tim is ejected to the right, you have to press the left direction for a certain number of frames (usually between 0 and 3, rarely more than 3) before being able to jump. You can hit the jump button before, but Tim will jump when the last needed left key is pressed. My interpretation is that there is a speed threshold encoded in the game which prevent you from jumping when your speed is too high.
As an example, here is a concrete input list in the last corner jump in stage 3-3, beginning when Tim is in the air:
  • [], [], [], [], [], [], [], [<-], [<-], [<-](jump)
In this case, Tim needed to input the opposite direction for 3 frames to be able to jump. Any combination of inputs where [<-] is done three times during the 10 frames window also works. Here is one of many alternative input list:
  • [], [<-], [], [], (jump), [], [<-], [], [], [<-]
It is usually useless to hit the forward direction [->] during the other frames because you already have a higher speed than the normal full speed.
The number of times you have to press the opposite direction depends on the impact location. The closer you are to the edge, the faster you will be ejected, so the more you will have to press the opposite direction. This will result in more decelerating, and thus potentially a lower speed. So this is a question of balance.

Collision glitches

  • Platforms: Putting Tim or a goomba through a platform results in an ejection to the closest free space. Seen in 3-4 and 3-8.
  • Clouds: It is possible to collide with a cloud, resulting in being ejected over it. Seen in 3-3.
  • Doors: Doors has different effects on Tim. The door in 5-2 pushes Tim under through the ground, but the door in 6-2 hurts him.

Rewind-Forward trick

After Tim takes a puzzle piece, if you rewind you will loose the piece. However, if you keep the rewind key pressed and fast-forward, you will have the piece back. Based on this observation, it can be used to move quickly on stages with a time-immune (TI) platform.
If you need to go from the TI platform to take a puzzle piece then go back to the platform, you can rewind after getting the piece to go back to the platform, and then fast-forward to get the puzzle piece back.
This also works with pulling a lever. This is used and abused in stage 6-6.

Teleportation

When stepping on a green platform, you earn the green state for a bit more than 2 seconds. After that, if you rewind to the moment you lost the green state, it is possible to teleport to any location you were from the moment you stepped on the green platform to the moment you lost the green state.
To trigger it, you have to rewind during the green state to the moment you want to be teleported. Then, just when you are loosing the green state, keep the rewind key pressed, and do a fast-forward (2 frames is enough). Later, if you rewind, you will be teleported to the place you where at that time.

Goomba fly

In World 4, when a goomba is falling, in some extremely precise positions, it is possible to make the goomba walk longer before falling. This allows to take the upper path in stage 4-2.

Jump input

In the air, you can give the jump input 12 frames before actually landing. This is used to save time in stage 5 when you want your shadow to jump and rewind just after. You can jump once, and give the jump input in the air, then rewind. Your shadow will keep the jump input and jump right after landing.

Small time savers

  • When stopped (e.g. at the beginning of every level), it's faster to jump to gain speed instead of running
  • When the ground is going up or down, Tim is slowed down, so it is usually faster to jump. Be careful, when landing on a upward slope, Tim is loosing speed. So in some occasions, it may be better not to jump too much on upward slopes.
  • When turning back, decelerating is faster on the ground
  • When changing speed of rewind, instead of pushing the (V)(down) key every other frame, you can alternate with the (S) key which also stands for down. It gives the following input for fastest 8x rewind: (shift)(V), (shift)(S), (shift)(V). It also stands for fast-forwarding.
  • To climb down a ladder, it is faster to jump before (if possible) and land on the ladder just above the floor. This way, you avoid the ladder glitch and you just have to go down for 1 or 2 frames before releasing the ladder by hitting the jump button.
  • There are two ways to leave a ladder. Either you jump or you go left or right. Going left or right gives you an initial non-zero horizontal speed, but jumping usually allows you to leave the ladder earlier. I choose either one depending on what I want to do next. As a side note, there are also two jump keys (W and Space), so you can use one for leaving the ladder and the other one to jump right after.

Stage by stage comments

I'm indicating the re-record / frame ratio next to each stage. This is a loose estimation of the difficulty I had with this stage. The higher it is, the more time I spent on this level relative to its length.

Stage 2-1 (0.41)

Long and painful stage, slopes are so hard to optimise. Climbing is a little slower that running, so I'm always dropping as soon as possible.

Stage 2-2 (0.29)

The first clouds are giving you more speed than corner boosts, so I'm staying on them as much as possible.

Stage 2-3 (0.24)

Faster to do from the right, even counting the time spent to take the right door. This is mainly because of the last (upper) goomba that can be very far if the timing is bad. I don't need the second puzzle piece with a platform from stage 2-4 to do the second part of stage 2-2.

Stage 2-2 bis (0.33)

I'm putting the platform at the right place to make the goomba take a corner boost. But the speed gain is so ridiculous (< 1 frame) that I'm keeping it for fun (does not loose time).

Stage 2-4 (0.19)

This is one of the few stages where I have to wait for soooooooooo long :(

Stage 3-1 (0.14)

Not much to say. I'm showing a little something here, you can rewind during the sequence where Tim is entering the door. I'm not abusing it because as any rewind, it breaks the music flow.

Stage 3-2 (0.45)

I'm first going toward the door before climbing up, because if I'm too early, I won't be able to pass below the goomba who is falling. It doesn't save much time from the straightforward path, though (< 10 frames).

Stage 3-3 (0.51)

I can pass the first part without time manipulation. The disposition of the clouds in the second part was quite nice, allowing me to not stop the time too much.

Stage 3-4 (0.22)

The collision between the platform and the goomba is throwing the goomba forward, saving some time. A nice jump to get the second puzzle piece :)

Stage 3-5 (0.22)

One of the most boring and quite exhausting stages: long, with a lot of slopes and with no challenge for the puzzle pieces.

Stage 3-6 (0.21)

I managed to be fast enough to pass the first plant after the first key, nice! So I have some time in the lower part of the stage.
To make this part as fast as possible, I should run from the door to the green key at the last moment, to be able to rewind as quickly as possible. However, if I do that, then the timing of the plant for the second (upper) puzzle piece will be bad. What I actually do is I wait a little more in the middle, so that I rewind more, and then I can (barely) get across the upper plant later.

Stage 3-7 (0.35)

The boss always starts to go to the right, so I planned to kill him with the right chandelier. The left one is used to wake him up.
To make him go under this chandelier sooner, I let the chandelier break. If I don't do that, he will stop just before its weak point (nose) is under it.
It is faster to start running toward the door and take the key using rewind-fast-forward than waiting for it.

Stage 3-8 (0.10)

Here is the first big skip of this run. By jumping high enough and making the green platform collide with me, I can be launched over it. I have enough time to take the piece puzzle, which is hopefully green, and go to the left to take the key. All this allows me to take the second piece directly, cutting this stage by about 30 seconds.

Stage 4-1 (0.16)

Not much to say

Stage 4-2 (0.24)

Ok, the skip for this stage was waited by a lot of people. Many thanks to jujurocking for proving that it is possible. If you have played this stage, you most probably tried to go above the double-doors... and you failed. Well, it is possible, but it requires manipulating the goomba to change its trajectory. As our movement controls the time, we have some control over the movement and velocity of the goombas. Different positions give a different fall of the goomba. By using the case where is falling very late, it is possible to access to the upper path. Unfortunately, I couldn't find any logic in it, so I make it happen by controlling my movement in the air and I keep the fastest of it.

Stage 4-3 (0.22)

This stage does not differ much from the non-TAS run. I just kill the last goomba the first time, so that it drops the key when I rewind.

Stage 4-4 (0.09)

Again, same as non-TAS run, just faster.

Stage 4-5 (0.31)

This stage contains a nice skip that is possible but hard to do in a non-TAS run (the current WR uses it): the rabbit skip. By going on the left of the rabbit when it goes on the ground, then going back, it raises from the ground earlier and can be manipulated to jump at the right place. When jumping twice on it, the puzzle piece can be taken without the key. As the second part of the stage requires to wait for the goomba, it is faster to do the rabbit skip in the meantime.

Stage 4-6 (0.21)

The first jump was made to land just before the goomba, to be able to steal the key from it later. I spend the extra time I get to climb for the second puzzle piece.

Stage 4-7 (0.29)

I'm basically using the advanced strat of the non-TAS speedrun. Using the platform, I'm pushing the goomba rather than letting the goomba land on it. I have time for the second puzzle piece so I start climbing to the exit. Again, rather than waiting for the goomba to walk forth and back, I'm pushing it with the platform so that it takes a nice corner boost, allowing me to take the key earlier.

Stage 5-1 (0.08)

As in every first stage, nothing to say here.

Stage 5-2 (0.65)

Unfortunately, I wasn't fast enough on the first part of the stage to catch the goomba on the second part :(

Stage 5-3 (0.47)

Another nice corner jump, allowing me to take the key and go back (barely doable). The rest is classic.

Stage 5-4 (0.21)

A quite fun stage. I'm using the ladder glitch, but letting the goomba go on the upper path to save some time as I could bounce on it earlier.

Stage 5-5 (0.21)

Another boring stage. I'm using the jump input trick for the first time here, to launch my shadow on the door as early as possible.

Stage 5-6 (0.26)

Here is how I'm doing a 3-hit chandelier: I drop the first one and rewind, then I wait 1 frame and drop it again. So the shadow wis 1 frame ahead. The shadow hit the boss; 1 frame after the real one hit it, then I rewind 1 frame so that the real chandelier has its own shadow (making 2 hits). The boss is still hurt from the first shadow, so it makes 3 hits in total.
For the puzzle piece, as it is in purple, I let my shadow take it while entering the door. Yes, I do take it during the transition :)

Stage 5-7 (0.11)

Not much to say. I'm looking back during one frame to let my shadow open the first door. It is too fast to be seen.

Stage 6-1 (0.05)

As any X-1 stage...

Stage 6-2 (0.84)

I actually don't need the ring here :) But for this, I have to enter through the right door.

Stage 6-3 (0.90)

This stage took me soooooo much time to perform, because I didn't want to use the ring for the second part. I saved every single frame I could, and I barely managed to do it. I'm really glad !

Stage 6-4 (0.20)

I'm using the pro strat here, which is doable in an non-TAS run. As there are many cyclic patterns (goombas, fireballs), I had to wait a few times :(

Stage 6-5 (0.92)

This is one of my favorite stages. I don't need to place the ring to let the platform go, so I'm heading directly to the green goombas.
In my way, I let the 1st, 3rd and 5th goombas pass by manipulating time. The first one is to go up. The second is to climb to the upper (star) path and I also need the make the third one take this path.
In this stage, what matters is to make the green goomba go as soon as possible to the left portion of the stage. As it is green, I don't loose time by using time manipulation.
I managed to keep the goomba in the air, so I make it take a corner boost. Using the ring, I put two normal goombas at the right distance, so that I can take the puzzle piece and go back.

Stage 6-6 (0.30)

Ok, the most technical stage, by far. For the first piece, I have to do a rewind-fast-forward to pass a fireball. But because of the teleportation, I must not fast-forward after the moment where I left the green platform, otherwise I would teleport in mid-air when rewinding later.
For the lever, I don't use the optimal strategy, but anyway, I have to wait for the lower green platform to do some of the way before pulling it.
For the middle puzzle piece, I have to rewind to the right time before taking it. The requirements are that I later need to land on the green platform before the ladder starts to go down. If I rewind too much, the platform is too far away. If I don't rewind enough, the ladder has already started falling. Then, I go up, but I must not rewind before the moment I stepped on the green platform, because I'm using the teleport trick on my way back. When I'm up, I set up the teleportation when loosing the green state.
The rest of the run does not differ much from the new strat. I go under the left platform with the key, then rewind-fast-forward so that the key get pushed by the platform.
A little time saver at the end: I prepare my jump to the right (with a corner boost), and I take the left corner boost and set up the teleportation so that I will get my right-corner-boost jump after rewinding. I recall that you cannot do any input while rewinding in green state, that's why I'm saving time with this boost. It is working also because teleporting gives you back the green state.

Stage 6-7 (0.08)

I don't need to place the ring under the key to catch it. At the end, I'm using another rewind-fast-forward trick with teleportation to get to the right faster.

Stage 1-4 (0.08)

Fun fact, the height of my jump is random. Either I get a simple or double goomba jump.

Stage 1-3 (0.08)

I run, I climb, I jump. What else ?

Stage 1-2 (0.11)

I need to wait here a little. Doing a triple jump at the middle.

Stage 1-1 (0.06)

The good ending is quite easy to get on a TAS, so I had to show something. Here, I'm not allowed to face right if the princess is facing left.

Epilogue (0.06)

Doing the Ghaby jump(R) !

RAM addresses

  • 00586764 and 00586774 (floats): x position of Tim when on the ground
  • 0058B270 and 0058B278 (floats): x position of the camera
  • 0058B274 and 0058B27C (floats): y position of the camera
  • 005D4158: x position of hand during puzzles
  • 005D415C: y position of hand during puzzles

Thanks

A huge thanks to the person who found most of the tricks: Archanfel. Thanks also to the speedrunners who all know a lot about this game: Ghabryel, P-why, Palfo, as well as everyone who contributed in the SDA topic.

Suggested screenshot

  • Frame 58878 or 58955
turska: Judging.
turska: Movie file replaced with an improvement from the author. The new movie is 265 frames faster.
turska: Great run, great audience response. Accepting for publication to Moons. Splendid work on your first submission, keylie.
Regarding branch name: since stages are identical for both speedrun mode and normal mode save for the ability to exit a stage in normal mode (which has no impactful time-saving applications), the two modes do not warrant separate branches, and instead will both be covered by the any% branch.

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Posted: 5/17/2013 7:28 PM
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TASVideoAgent
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This topic is for the purpose of discussing #3968: keylie's Windows Braid in 22:15.28
Posted: 5/17/2013 7:40 PM
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Synahel
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Yes, yes, yes and more yes. Having watched your WIP, I can't acclaim this run enough, it is amazing. Not only it does look polished, but you really thought your way through this and even added amazing elements for pure awesomeness (oh god these puzzles). Thank you so much for this, my good sir.
Posted: 5/17/2013 9:06 PM
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TAS of 2017 First edition TAS of 2017 PSX TAS of 2017 Rookie of 2013
Yes, just an amazing run.
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Posted: 5/17/2013 9:28 PM
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CtrlAltDestroy
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A TAS of a game about TAS mechanics. How meta! This run blew my mind almost as much as the game itself did when I first played it. It was unexpected and amazing to see all the sequence breaks and shortcuts that had been found. Wonderful!
Posted: 5/17/2013 9:52 PM
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That was a really entertaining TAS, some really crazy solutions to some of the puzzles. Yes vote.
Posted: 5/17/2013 10:42 PM
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Yes. I rarely watch runs through to the end, especially if I've never played the game, but this one was entertaining the entire time.
Posted: 5/17/2013 11:51 PM
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I haven't played this game enough to notice these things, so I have to ask: What are the things you managed to do to achieve the good ending without collecting all the stars, and are these things possible in an unassisted run? Anyway, good stuff overall, definite yes vote.
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Posted: 5/18/2013 12:01 AM
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I think you just have to do the first part of the last stage optimally enough to get ahead of a piranha plant cycle before the chandelier, otherwise you’re way behind the chandelier when it goes up. I’ve seen it done in real runs, with a lot of rewinding to do the tricky parts quickly enough (not sure exactly which parts matter).
Posted: 5/18/2013 12:32 AM
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This is TAS of the year for me as you already know ;), yes vote. Corner boosting and perfect timeline surgery everywhere. Is anyone planning to upload this to nicovideo?
Cpadolf wrote:
I haven't played this game enough to notice these things, so I have to ask: What are the things you managed to do to achieve the good ending without collecting all the stars, and are these things possible in an unassisted run? Anyway, good stuff overall, definite yes vote.
Yes, any realtime speedrun gets the good ending. The trick is that the level is designed assuming you do NOT get any corner boosts. If you get good corner boosts you can get an early pirahna plant cycle at the end and reach the chandelier. This is meant to only be possible if you have all seven other stars (which makes a lever green which makes it super easy to get the early cycle)
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This is wonderful! Easy yes from me.
Posted: 5/18/2013 1:34 AM
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I really wasn't expecting a TAS of Braid to come anytime soon. Easy yes. As a quick note, even if the puzzle wasn't totally optimal I loved the way you did them, if there was a way to record the mouse I'm not sure it would really have been better than that cause it was way more entertaining :) Edit: Also I forgot to say, nice submission, all the informations are there.
Posted: 5/18/2013 1:37 AM
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Btw, a few things that the level editor could help you with: 1) When you say some doors kill you and others just push you - there's a flag on entities that determines if being inside of the entity kills you or not (I think it's called impenetrable) 2) You were able to rewind after taking a few doors in world 3, is that because they were set as 'rewind exempt' (aka green) in the editor? (Oh, is it possible on any door in the game?)
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Re the ending: if you 100% the game up to that point (not viable for a speedrun because it requires waiting for several hours at one point), it makes two levers green, meaning you don't have to detour to pull them. That's the intended way to get the 100% ending. You can do the same thing using corner boosts, which is very difficult to do in realtime, but possible (a lot of rewinding is normally required to try them over and over again, although the best players can do it with moderate consistency). Of course, a TAS doesn't have much issue with this.
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Amazing. Absolutely amazing run. From the first time I ever played this game, I wished oh wished to see a TAS of it. You absolutely did not disappoint!
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World 6 was a series of amazement(especially 6-5 and 6-7). I once beat this game, so I like how broken apart when time rewinding meets TAS. Of course, I vote yes. Sad thing is that this TAS can be(and sure is) spoiler to anyone who didn't play this beautiful game.
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Odongdong wrote:
World 6 was a series of amazement(especially 6-5 and 6-7). I once beat this game, so I like how broken apart when time rewinding meets TAS. Of course, I vote yes. Sad thing is that this TAS can be(and sure is) spoiler to anyone who didn't play this beautiful game.
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Posted: 5/18/2013 4:59 AM
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ais523
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I've now watched this run. I love the amount of precision in this TAS. So many jumps were made that clearly weren't intended to be possible, and often appeared to stretch the boundaries of possibility even for a TAS. My favourite moment was probably "Crossing the Gap". I expected absurdity (given the level's reputation; it's heavily studied due to being one of the levels playable in individual levels mode), and started out a little disappointed because it appeared to be using quite a banal route through the level. Then something utterly absurd happened, and I laughed out loud :) We even get to see one of the stars, although not collected. I'd be interested in seeing (probably not as a submission, just as a demonstration for your fans) TASed routes for the five most interesting stars. (The one that requires the other stars to be collected beforehand obviously wouldn't be significantly different from the current route; then one of them takes far too long to collect, and another one is an issue of knowing where it is, rather than there being any particular interest in the way it's collected.)
Posted: 5/18/2013 6:15 AM
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turska
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Joined: 6/17/2008
Posts: 146
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I'm running into a Hourglass-detected desync between frames 8 and 16. Other sync attempts I know of have also failed, and the game uses 3D hardware which is known to cause sync issues in Hourglass based on the user's specific system configuration and the phase of the moon, so I'm requesting the cavalry's assistance in attempting to sync the movie. Instructions for how to play back the run: 1. Get Hourglass. 2. Acquire a copy of the game that matches the author's copy. 3. Acquire a savefile that has the necessary Speedruns mode unlocked as instructed in the submission text, or download one here and place it in the directory %APPDATA%/Braid (create it if it doesn't exist; Braid will create it automatically when it saves the game). 4. Start Hourglass, find Braid.exe and the movie file and set the settings as listed in the submission text. If the game crashes or fails to start, try changing the "Multithreading and Wait Sync" option in the Hourglass main window. Note: unlike most Windows games, Braid runs in Hourglass on Windows 7 (which is what the author used), so you're applicable even if you don't have an XP system sitting around. Even if Hourglass detects a desync right off the bat, the run might still sync for a while before fully desyncing, so keep watching until you run into a visually confirmed desync.
Posted: 5/18/2013 7:08 AM
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keylie
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Joined: 3/17/2013
Posts: 392
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turska, I also get desync in the beginning very often, it results in the first inputs been altered. That is why I started to make relevant inputs after a few seconds. Did you try to let the game go ? If Tim is taking the first door correctly, then it is very probable that the whole movie will be synced. About the Hourglass options, it is more robust to put "Multithreading and Wait Sync" on "Allow" in the main window. EDIT: I was able to play the full run with no visual desync on my laptop with an integrated graphic card.
Posted: 5/18/2013 7:19 AM
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turska
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Computer TASer of 2012
keylie wrote:
turska, I also get desync in the beginning very often in the first second. Did you try to let the game go ? If Tim is taking the first door correctly, then it is very probable that the whole movie will be synced. About the Hourglass options, it is more robust to put "Multithreading and Wait Sync" on "Allow" in the main window.
Yes, I did let the game run, and it desyncs visibly on the first level. Howewer, I just got word from Atma that he managed to get the run to sync, so sync is now confirmed.
Posted: 5/18/2013 8:14 AM
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Patashu
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Anyone have screenshot suggestions? The still shown for the youtube video is unintentionally really good - because it shows a puzzle piece being collected without the key 'used' to get it having ever been used - and at the same time the puzzle on the right side is being set up, AND it's showing off the time travel and highlighting the 'green entity' mechanic.
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Posted: 5/18/2013 9:13 AM
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Odongdong
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Patashu wrote:
I consider beating Braid practice for Braid mods, since Braid has an awesome engine but the main game is short and easy, the mods are lovely explorations of what else is possible and you can do them blind: http://www.moddb.com/games/braid/addons/silverbraid http://dl.dbank.com/c0vzl2irhl http://www.moddb.com/downloads/tims-modyssee http://www.filefront.com/17335668/stone.zip/ https://www.dropbox.com/s/2xp1ru4gelz5s3t/AtE.zip http://www.youtube.com/user/DoctorBalcus/videos?view=1&flow=grid
Thanks for sharing, I hope it can be applied to Steam version. By the way, about the screenshot, I recommend this one or something near here. It's on YTP @16:20, world 6-5. I can't see what the author has suggested because I don't know how to sync the playback. Well, he can choose whatever he wants.
Posted: 5/18/2013 9:15 AM
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Sir_VG
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Where's the option for voting "Fuck yes"?
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Posted: 5/18/2013 9:52 AM
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Patashu
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Odongdong wrote:
Patashu wrote:
I consider beating Braid practice for Braid mods, since Braid has an awesome engine but the main game is short and easy, the mods are lovely explorations of what else is possible and you can do them blind: http://www.moddb.com/games/braid/addons/silverbraid http://dl.dbank.com/c0vzl2irhl OR https://www.dropbox.com/s/v0e0kmer592upe1/nova.zip?v=0rc-s http://www.moddb.com/downloads/tims-modyssee http://www.filefront.com/17335668/stone.zip/ https://www.dropbox.com/s/2xp1ru4gelz5s3t/AtE.zip http://www.youtube.com/user/DoctorBalcus/videos?view=1&flow=grid
Thanks for sharing, I hope it can be applied to Steam version.
All Braid mods work in any PC version of Braid. Simply do two things: 1) The folder for the mod must be placed in 'universes' under 'Braid'. To give an example: C:\Program Files (x86)\Steam\steamapps\common\Braid\universes\silverbraid 2) In the launch options (for Steam) (presumably command line options for non-Steam), add this: -universe silverbraid (caps sensitive) Braid will keep its save files for every mod separate, so you don't have to worry about overriding progress. EDIT: I just calculated what part in the video the suggested screenshot frames are for, and he suggests the exact same place you do, Odongdong. :)
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Posted: 5/18/2013 10:37 AM
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Archanfel
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Probably it is the best TAS of 2013. Awesome job keylie! ---
Odongdong wrote:
By the way, about the screenshot, I recommend this one or something near here. It's on YTP @16:20, world 6-5.
Fully agree with Odongdong, screenshot should be somewhere in 6-5; Personally i like this frame with ring:
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