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Oh goodie. Oh boy. Oh, shoot me now.

Teh Stuff:

  • Bios: SCPH1001 (NTSC bios)
  • Hardest Difficulty
  • Goes for in-game time
  • Goes for speed instead of entertainment aka going for Vault - If people find this entertaining then I'm pleased and I should shut up
  • lua used + created

Note:

When you're looking at the round times you will see spike times which means it's higher than 1.68, this is due to changing the input as it's either due to the AI charging or AI ducking during the slap or that the AI hits when Spinning Harakiri.

Round times:

ChallengerRound 1Round 2Total Time
Nina1.681.683.36
Michelle1.691.683.37
Lei2.981.694.67
Jack-21.701.683.38
Jun1.732.123.85
King1.721.653.37
Paul1.701.713.41
Kunimitsu1.721.723.44
Kazuya1.681.683.36
Devil2.091.683.77
Total18.6917.2935.98

Placed as Frame times:

ChallengerRound 1Round 2Frame Time
Nina101101202
Michelle101101202
Lei179101280
Jack-2102101203
Jun104127231
King10399202
Paul102103205
Kunimitsu103103206
Kazuya101101202
Devil125101226
Total112110382159

Quick Rundown on previous TASes:

The First submission used Law and had an in-game time of 1'43"81
The next submission used King which had an in-game time of 1'25"93
The third run (which was not submitted) used Yoshimitsu with an in-game time of 50"28.
This is a 35"98 TAS which uses the fastest moves of Yoshimitsu to finish of the fights.

Possible Improvements (with the joys of RNG):

  • During the first round with Lei it's possible to finish him in 147 frames (32 frame improvement) but all the frames are lost when you reach the first round of King.
  • Round 2 of Jun was only forced as there was no way to hit her faster.
  • Somehow it's possible to finish a round in 99 frames... which cannot be replicated anywhere else.
  • Shark Attack is the fastest move BUT when done on hard mode it's the easiest move to avoid.
  • Please, please, please, please, PLEASE! if you think you can improve on my errors complete the whole TAS it's a painful TAS to complete as it takes a long time to do.

Special thanks:

Cooljay for telling me to submit it, even if I doubted on the time.
FractalFusion for providing a Nico version.

Suggested Screenshots:

4703, 5397, 6684, 8327 (if allowed) 8761
I'm sorry if I disappointed anyone except for true.
By the way I voted meh
Noxxa: Judging.
Noxxa: While the run is improvable at a few points, it's already known an improvement is being worked on. For the mean time, this run is (just barely) good enough for publication. Accepting to the Vault.

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Posted: 1/29/2014 5:24 AM
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This topic is for the purpose of discussing #4177: Spikestuff's PSX Tekken 2 in 02:20.63
Posted: 1/29/2014 6:13 AM
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FractalFusion
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This is awesome. (Even if the awesomeness lasts only a few days.) Never would I have dreamed it possible to finish each battle (round) in 2.98s or less in a fighting game, and with almost all of them under 2 seconds. And the way it is done here confirms why Yoshimitsu is the best character ever. Yes vote.
Posted: 1/29/2014 6:17 AM
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After reading in your submission text that you thought this might end up in the Vault, I was surprised to be very entertained by this run. I even found it quite humorous how you dispatched all those tough-looking fighters with only two moves and took mortal damage many times over in the process (especially in the final fight's slow-motion instant replay). Yes vote!
Posted: 1/29/2014 7:41 AM
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Slightly repetitive, but surprisingly non-boring. Man, that prerendered animation at the end... It looks hilariously primitive and ugly.
Posted: 1/29/2014 9:31 AM
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It was entertaining in how profoundly bizzare it was. King of Fighters Yoshimitsu, kills himself to save time!
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Posted: 1/29/2014 10:11 AM
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So repetitive and boring, that it actually becomes fun again. Yes vote!
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Posted: 1/29/2014 10:25 AM
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The screenshots that Spikestuff wanted: Note: They are in 512x240 resolution, since the AVI output mostly uses 512x240 mode. Edit: Fixed a couple of them. Edit 2: Fixed off-by-one error on remaining images.
Posted: 1/29/2014 10:37 AM
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Thanks for fixing them FractalFusion. I actually had them done and posted... then I saw you edited it. ^ due to the preview screens behind it.
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Posted: 1/29/2014 1:16 PM
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No vote. It was tedious and pretty much exemplifies why fighting games that aim for pure speed often don't translate well to entertainment.
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This seems to be competing for the "Worst looking TAS of 2011" Award.
Posted: 1/29/2014 1:18 PM
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I still can't say I was entertained by this, but I am glad to see that this is now much more precisely run and efficiently done. It's funny to see the Harikiri move used so much, but it wasn't entertaining enough for me to vote anything other than No. (It's sort of like the run of Bushido Blade II, which is really optimized with a really repetitive result.) That being said, good job with polishing this.
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Posted: 1/29/2014 1:45 PM
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Posted: 1/29/2014 2:09 PM
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I accept this very fast, nearly one hit KO. Spikestuff make so good But I can't understand, alway repeat actions can make many ppl here feel entertament. With me feel, it's battle of robots :) I vote no. Sure it go to Vault
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Posted: 1/29/2014 2:13 PM
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Voting no, it was too repetitive to hold my attention. A fine movie for the Vault however
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Normally i would say Yes, but thennI thought "its not the same hack" so ill stick with meh.
Posted: 1/29/2014 2:19 PM
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GENIUS!!! Especially the end of fight with Jun after you get used to WTF happens. Probably this is even more impressive for those who don't know the game (only after a few iterations you notice Yoshimitsu doesn't actually die from seppuku).
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Posted: 1/29/2014 2:29 PM
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It's Vault, but it's good for it. Fastest Tekken 2. Punch Face, Stab Self, win!
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Posted: 1/29/2014 2:45 PM
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I think, apart from the repetitiveness which other people have mentioned, the problem from an entertainment perspective is demonstrated by the title of the Youtube encode: "Tekken 2 in 2:20.63 (35.98 in-game)". So three-quarters of the running-time of this TAS is not watching frame-perfect fights, it's watching loading screens. Ironically, the faster a TAS of this kind becomes, the greater the proportion of it in which nothing happens at all. I agree with hegyak: it's a Vault movie, but it's a good Vault movie.
Posted: 1/29/2014 5:10 PM
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Well, it's kind of funny to see the hardest difficulty beaten so easily, but it does get repetitive. Meh, and +1 for Vault.
Posted: 1/29/2014 7:20 PM
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feos wrote:
Probably this is even more impressive for those who don't know the game (only after a few iterations you notice Yoshimitsu doesn't actually die from seppuku).
This is exactly what happened to me. It was nice. Made me smile. I guess this is the best "aims for speed" fighting TAS that I have seen.
Posted: 1/29/2014 8:19 PM
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I vote for the 1st and the 4th screenshot for publication. For Vault!
Posted: 1/29/2014 10:29 PM
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A hilarious yes vote.
Posted: 1/29/2014 10:54 PM
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thatguy wrote:
I think, apart from the repetitiveness which other people have mentioned, the problem from an entertainment perspective is demonstrated by the title of the Youtube encode: "Tekken 2 in 2:20.63 (35.98 in-game)". So three-quarters of the running-time of this TAS is not watching frame-perfect fights, it's watching loading screens. Ironically, the faster a TAS of this kind becomes, the greater the proportion of it in which nothing happens at all. I agree with hegyak: it's a Vault movie, but it's a good Vault movie.
Doesn't in-game time pause whenever someone dies? But the fight is still ongoing. So your claim that 'three quarters of the TAS is loading screens' is wrong.
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Posted: 1/29/2014 11:05 PM
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Patashu wrote:
Doesn't in-game time pause whenever someone dies? But the fight is still ongoing. So your claim that 'three quarters of the TAS is loading screens' is wrong.
Yes it does, when a round is done, the final hit which was dealt stops the timer... Also he's forgetting the very start of the run which is changing difficulty and selecting character.
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Posted: 1/30/2014 12:25 AM
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Spikestuff wrote:
Patashu wrote:
Doesn't in-game time pause whenever someone dies? But the fight is still ongoing. So your claim that 'three quarters of the TAS is loading screens' is wrong.
Yes it does, when a round is done, the final hit which was dealt stops the timer... Also he's forgetting the very start of the run which is changing difficulty and selecting character.
Well, you aren't exactly "fighting" during the times the opponent falls to the ground since you're busy clenching your stomach. Also, I'm not sure if changing difficulty/Character selection in a fighting game can be considered "gameplay".
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Posted: 1/30/2014 1:14 AM
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Meh... it does prove my theorem of how people had 45 second in game timer runs in the Arcade with him... very fortunate in execution. Boring as all hell though... In an Arcade it'd be kinda different... different environment and crowds and stuff... but yeah... Meh. Mr. Kelly R. Flewin
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Posted: 1/30/2014 2:11 AM
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I found this movie very hilarious because of the strategy used that soo extreme. This TAS shows what a TAS can do. From what I can understand, the samurai trick is very hard to pull of since the range is very small... Not to mention the sacrifice that comes with it. But it delivers massive damage to the opponent. And that move is well exploited. A human player playing this game won't dare doing this move since it's so risky. Good job Spiky! :)
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