While the time may look impressive compared to what human play has achieved, there's some very fundamental gaps in the TASers knowledge in regards to movement speed. The way speed works in a nutshell is that there are several stacking speed modifiers that this run apparently does none of. Strafe Running with the strafe buttons is one factor, Strafe Running with use of the Strafe On button is another (this one is more tricky due to the fact that it locks you facing one direction. A major speed modifier that's actually really fundamental to Doom 64 running and sets it aside from the PC Doom games is called neutral reset. Basically you can reset the neutral position on an N64 analog stick and setting the neutral position of the stick to all the way back essentially gives the player double the run speed when moving forward. This comes at the cost of your ability to back up via analog stick and can only be achieved with the specific back button. Another thing that could potentially be optimized further is playing with a higher sensitivity to make turns quicker and get enemies out of your way faster. Enemies in general are not manipulated all that well in this TAS. It's a shame to have this TAS discovered in a "complete" state, but there's just such a large gap in understanding that someone with the knowledge could easily shave upwards of ten minutes off of this.

This is not bad by any means. Tasvideos standard is just so damn high. Voting yes for the effort and for the ambitious first submission! Doom! <3

As someone who has quite a bit of knowledge of the game and the speedrun, here is a short list of the most important TAS-only and/or real-time viable strategies that are either not utilized or under-utilized in this run: Neutral reset/Speed multipliers Resetting the control stick neutral to "down" means that when the stick is at rest, the game thinks you are holding up. When you then hold up on the stick, the game reads this as "even more up" and you move significantly faster. Also, the use of toggle strafe in conjunction with running at an angle (strafe-running) to increase speed is lacking in this TAS. I would estimate that upwards of five minutes, if not more, are lost by not using both of these tricks to their fullest extent. It should be noted as well that the TAS appears to not adjust the control sensitivity in any way, severely hindering the ability to turn quickly around corners. This is a significant source of time that is bled throughout the run. Advanced enemy manipulation Enemies, when manipulated properly, can open doors and lower certain elevators, eliminating the need to activate them yourself. There doesn't appear to be any purposeful use of this in the run. Spawn prevention Standing over the spawn point of certain enemies can prevent them from spawning. Manipulating enemies to walk over another enemy spawn point can also prevent a spawn. This is particularly useful for preventing the spawn of very strong enemies that require a nontrivial amount of time to kill. Multiple trigger skips This game has a prolific use of movement based triggers that spawn enemies, raise and lower floors, and many other things. The best use of skipping these triggers is to prevent the spawn of enemies that get in your way, which can be done on several levels. The TAS makes use of this only once as far as I can tell. Damage range manipulation The nature of weapons in this game is such that damage is dealt on a range from a minimum to a maximum value every shot. This means that enemies that usually take three rockets can take two rockets if you are lucky, or 4 rockets if you are unlucky. This applies to a majority of the enemies in the game, and the TAS fails to manipulate the randomness to ensure enemies are always killed with the least amount of ammo (and in turn shortest amount of time) whenever possible. Proper BFG usage The TAS does not utilize the BFG to its fullest potential, often using several more shots than optimal for cyberdemons. If a TAS manipulates the BFG to output its maximum or near maximum damage output, cyberdemons should never take more than two BFG shots to kill. ----------------------------- Along with these, there are several instances of poor routing or time wasted killing enemies that can easily be ran past. Most instances of these sub-optimal routing decisions appear to be a result of them be done in prior real-time speedruns, as I assume these were used as a reference in the making of this TAS. Many of these routes have since been obsoleted. Also, general ammo management leaves much to be desired. I am glad that this game has started to receive attention from people, but as of now there is still so much that needs to be improved. I look forward to seeing any improvements and would gladly volunteer my time and knowledge to helping anyone (including Dimon) who wishes to make a more optimal TAS for this amazing game.

... I expected that tasvideos accepts all games that aren't TASed to give people more fun, according to what TAS is difficult to make, like this.

...expect it to be obsoleted within a day, if even that.

If you run enough fast, you have a CHANCE (not always) to get the key without moving the pedestal down.

I haven't watched the run yet, but I'm quite certain I'll be very entertained, and likely keep in on my media box for a long time. However... I can't see it going to anywhere but gruefood. It simply doesn't have the refinement for the vault, but is an excellent effort nonetheless. However, there is that one issue... games like Doom 64, Super Mario Kart, F-Zero have insanely high thresholds for perfect (or even 'acceptable') runs, and as such, these games never end up getting completed or accepted. I wish there was a solution to this, but there isn't a simple one. I'd like gruefood submissions to be a little more visible, and more submissions go to it... but I've been a fan for 10+ years, not really an issue for me if a run I like isn't published, I'll keep it somehow, heh. Anyhow... I look forward to watching it soon! Great effort, and I'm sure if you guys put your heads together, you could put together a worthy run given some time!

For reasons stated by Garrison and Graviton I also voted no. But PLEASE try again, Doom 64 is a really entertaining game to watch.

...expect it to be obsoleted within a day, if even that.

I think the number of people who have the time/motivation/skill to obsolete this run is actually very low. Well, if we gave any experienced taser a full day to work, he could obsolete almost any TAS by one frame. But even if you gave me a thousand hours, I might still be struggling to finish a run for Doom (on any system). The game is a billion-headed beast of randomness, which frightens me a lot.

For reasons stated by Garrison and Graviton I also voted no. But PLEASE try again, Doom 64 is a really entertaining game to watch.

I have bad feeling about the run... I'm a little depressed now! Why did you vote no? The movie isn't entertaining =)!?? If my inspiration comes back to me, I'll try again. Bring It On diffic. goes??

human RTAs

human RTAs

Now I'm left wondering what "RTA" stands for...

For reasons stated by Garrison and Graviton I also voted no. But PLEASE try again, Doom 64 is a really entertaining game to watch.

I have bad feeling about the run... I'm a little depressed now! Why did you vote no? The movie isn't entertaining =)!?? If my inspiration comes back to me, I'll try again. Bring It On diffic. goes??

Keep in mind that Garrison and Graviton are REALLY eager to see an awesome Doom 64 TAS. In fact, we all are! So here's what you should do 1) Play with all the glitches and speedrunning tricks you haven't tried out yet 2) Make a WIP of the first level, make an unlisted youtube encode of it, post both on the Doom 64 thread on tasvideos 3) Garrison, Graviton, etc will let you know if you missed any optimizations, and then you can fix them and be satisfied with the knowledge that your run of that level has no known errors left (It's a great feeling :) ). Proceed to the next stage, etc. How does that sound? BTW, the TAS should either be on the hardest difficulty or easiest difficulty.