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No Funny TAS of 2017?
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Challenger wrote:
No Funny TAS of 2017?
Possibly related to this: http://tasvideos.org/forum/viewtopic.php?p=426027#426027 I remember there was some IRC discussion about abolishing this category in years with lack of 'funny' TASes. I assume that's what happened in 2017.
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The post BrunoVisnadi linked is one example, but I've received quite a few messages over the years from a few different people that Funny TAS either had little or no good candidates or should be abolished entirely. (Personally, looking back through the years, I don't think the award has really had a good winner since 2013). This year when I discussed award categories on IRC, I decided to look at whether Funny TAS should be kept (instead of receiving criticism too late, like the previous years), and concluded it was not worth keeping. In the past year, 0 playarounds and 2 demonstrations were published, and only one of the demonstrations actually has some comedic intents. Anything else that could be suggested would be mostly coincidental moments of comedy or brief playarounds that could be placed in a speed TAS. In the end I decided, along with adelikat and others, that there weren't enough viable candidates to run a Funny TAS award, so we've retired it.
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So, a question about categories. The most prominent platform in the "computer" category is DOS. For quite some time now, the TASvideos site has had a separate movie page and forum for this platform. Perhaps it would be fitting, as of next year, to have a distinct category for "Best DOS TAS"? For comparison, the last three years have seen 23 DOS runs, and 17 runs for Windows, C64, and MSX combined. In other words, about 60% of runs in the "computer" category are for DOS. This is comparable to the N64 category, which has 22 runs in the past three years. So I'd like to hear if people think this is big enough for a split as of next year.
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Radiant wrote:
So, a question about categories. The most prominent platform in the "computer" category is DOS. For quite some time now, the TASvideos site has had a separate movie page and forum for this platform. Perhaps it would be fitting, as of next year, to have a distinct category for "Best DOS TAS"? For comparison, the last three years have seen 23 DOS runs, and 17 runs for Windows, C64, and MSX combined. In other words, about 60% of runs in the "computer" category are for DOS. This is comparable to the N64 category, which has 22 runs in the past three years. So I'd like to hear if people think this is big enough for a split as of next year.
Award categories for systems are decided on a year-to-year basis based on whether there are enough movies to hold an award with reasonable competition. For DOS in particular, this time there were 7 DOS candidates, which is maybe barely enough to hold a category on its own, but there were only 4 candidate movies combined for C64/MSX/DOOM/Windows (one of each), so those 4 movies needed to be combined together with DOS to make a passable Computer TAS award. The same sort of logic goes when it comes to N64 combining with GC/Wii or DS to make Nintendo 3D TAS. You mention N64 which had 7 candidates this year and 8 candidates last year, but the year before that it had only 3, so then it was combined with GC/Wii to form Nintendo 3D TAS. As for next year, I cannot make any promises on what categories will appear yet, because it will depend entirely on how many movies (at least approximately) for it will be published next year. If DOS has enough candidates to run its own award and other non-DOS computer systems also have enough room for their own award (or can fit in well enough elsewhere), then yes, DOS can become its own award.
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Don't they have Super Mario Advance 4 on GBA TAS of 2017?
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Evan0512 wrote:
Don't they have Super Mario Advance 4 on GBA TAS of 2017?
Where did you see a publication of a SMA4 TAS?
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For next year, I would love to see an award concerning the routing/planning/research required behind a movie. (Not the actual movie making or luck manipulation).
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Niamek wrote:
For next year, I would love to see an award concerning the routing/planning/research required behind a movie. (Not the actual movie making or luck manipulation).
I think this is a great idea. That stuff is usually my favorite part of any submission, I usually read it even if I don't watch the TAS.
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I like this idea too.
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Niamek wrote:
For next year, I would love to see an award concerning the routing/planning/research required behind a movie. (Not the actual movie making or luck manipulation).
Sounds like something that specifically rewards technical value of a movie. It's an interesting idea indeed.
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I agree with the others, this is a nice idea. Some minor details would need to be ironed out, like exactly what to call the award, what sort of award icon to make for it and such, but that aside I'd be fine to run with that starting from next year on.
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Technical TAS, with a gear icon?
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Habreno wrote:
Technical TAS, with a gear icon?
which includes tools, ram, lua, pad, "blue" mario and hex-edit, inside?
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Habreno wrote:
Technical TAS, with a gear icon?
What about something more familiar, like Dr. Light face or some other genius-like character?
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I am also in favor of creating this new award. Technical TAS sounds like it would be easy to misunderstand and give to runs of high technical value, even if it does not come from research. Same with the suggested icons. For example, the above suggests a TAS like the most recent Pokemon Yellow ACE would qualify, which is (as far as I gather from the posts here, and from discussions on IRC) not the goal of the award. My proposals for name and icon: Investigated TAS, magnifying glass over a game cart. Planned TAS, an "X marks the spot" map with paths dotted on it.
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Aight, seeing more of how this is aiming now. Researched TAS Either a beaker with some liquid in it or something else that represents "work".
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How about something along these lines for the icon...
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A Magnifying Glass could also work for the icon.
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My sore opinions. More awards? Don't know. Maybe no need. Award for most research? No. Too much ambiguity. Award for highest technical value? No. It will probably already have a TAS of the year / Platform TAS of the year / TASer of the year.
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Awards for all the winners have been awarded. Thank you everyone for your hard work, and congrads to all the winners. I hope to see more good work for next year's awards.
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Post subject: Re: Congrads
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Nach wrote:
Awards for all the winners have been awarded. Thank you everyone for your hard work, and congrads to all the winners.
Thanks! And I'm really impressed that Mothrayas has gained Exotic category TAS twice (on the same year).
Nach wrote:
I hope to see more good work for next year's awards.
Seconded. Also, since the Funny TAS of the Year was retired, this category must be moved to "Retired Awards", on the Awards page.
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