After defeating Evil Wizard Malkil from Ironsword: Wizards & Warriors 2, Malkil returned and imprisoned princess in the Fortress of Fear, Kuros set out on adventure again to save princess. This run saved 1,139 frames over previous movie.
Game objectives
Emulator used: BizHawk 2.5.2
Aim for fastest time.
Do not take damage for entertainment.
Comments
Mostly better optimization here and there. Big thanks to Dacicus for his existing movie and pointing out creatures spawn are based on screen positioning and amount of active sprite tiles on screen which helped me improve movie further.
Here's table of comparison:
Description
Dacicus
ventuz
Frames saved(+)/loss(-)
Official Bios
0
340
-340*
VBA emu late start
6
346
6*
L1-0 end
1976
2298
12
L1-1 to tower
3911
4224
9
L1-1 end
4490
4797
6
L1-2 to tower
6150
6272
185
L1-3 end
7711
7830
3
L2-0 end
10338
10279
178
L2-1 end
12063
11968
36
L2-2 end
13267
13171
1
L2-3 end
14491
14386
9
L2-4 end
15717
15594
18
L3-0 end
17165
16997
45
L3-1 end
18815
18633
14
L3-2 end
19871
19658
31
L3-3 end
21124
20823
88
L4-0 to tower
23234
22913
20
L4-0 end
23757
23431
5
L4-1 end
26626
26285
18
L4-2 end
28176
27653
179
L5 3rd room
30134
29608
3
L5 4th room
30974
30415
33
L5 5th room
31440
30832
49
L5 7th room
33400
32776
16
L5 8th room
34024
33397
3
End input
35959
35148
184
*Not counted toward saved/loss total
Samsara: Submission delayed at the author's request. File replaced with a 10 frame improvement, resetting to New.
fsvgm777: Processing.Holding off until this is cleared up. Oh, uh....it's been published as of several hours ago. The Vault rules have been clarified with how runs with speed/entertainment tradeoffs are handled. See this post.
Here's an HD encode instead of the 144p one you posted.
Link to video
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After reviewing my movie couple times, I think I found an area I may able to improve.
Can this be on pause / delay until resolved? I don't have option for that.
Please replace movie with file below and resume judging:
http://tasvideos.org/userfiles/info/67792134484038849
Saved extra 10 frames in L3-0, didn't get me much as I was hoping to, but better than nothing.
Thought I would able to kill off minotaur instead of waiting for him to move away to save huge amount of frames, turns out he had too much hp that he would still walk into Kuros before I get to kill it off.
Earned extra 10 from being able to quickly move to right after killing minotaur when he stopped moving.
*edit - beware, video in submission is outdated, only changed is L3-0 and final strike on final boss
Set to delay.I'm going over large improvement already in L4-2 (79 extra frames saved) and possible final boss, I'm reviewing early level in 1-1 too.
*edit - No need to delay, please replace to this movie: http://tasvideos.org/userfiles/info/67861261033703526
I also sacificed a few frames in eariler levels to conserve "damage shield" and use it for final boss, saved extra 62 at final boss. I've also saved few frames in some levels.
169 frames saved in this movie.
I hope this is final. Once replaced movie is up, I'll redo frame table. *edit - done
As this would end up in the Vault, wouldn't it be faster if damage was taken?
Matter of fact, the ratings for the current publication which also avoids damage, aren't particularly strong. The Vault is meant for strictly speed-based records, so I believe it'd be better to take damage to save time (assuming it saves time, of course).
If it does, then it's essentially the same situation as with Rambo.
EDIT: Just played a tiny bit casually, and there's zero knockback when taking damage. As such, I'm sadly led to believe that judgement was passed a bit hastily, as taking damage would be faster in any way (at least from a quick glance).
The Vault is meant for strictly speed-based records
That I did not know, and I choose to honor same goal as previous movie because I didn't find it interesting to just walk thru enemies.
EDIT:
fsvgm777 wrote:
I'm sadly led to believe that judgement was passed a bit hastily
Matter of fact, the ratings for the current publication which also avoids damage, aren't particularly strong. The Vault is meant for strictly speed-based records, so I believe it'd be better to take damage to save time (assuming it saves time, of course).
Vault tier limits the movie goal choice to fastest completion and full completion, and including tradeoffs doesn't mean that the movie isn't aiming for fastest completion. In fact, the Movie Rules don't explicitly ban tradeoffs from Vault, unless I'm missing something. Additionally, we have a precedent of a movie being accepted for Vault while knowingly featuring tradeoffs: #5429: Noxxa's PSX TOCA Touring Car Championship "max points" in 10:30:25.84
Go on, reject and let previous movie stay? ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
This is ultimately not my call to make. Though I will say that I genuinely feel bad for you, because this TAS at least has some merit, and in no way was my intention to get this TAS ultimately rejected.
ThunderAxe, I'd normally agree with that, but this is essentially the same situation as with Rambo, with an improvement to the previous publication getting rejected because no damage was taken. Afterwards, a new Rambo TAS was submitted that took damage to save time, which ended up obsoleting the one that didn't take damage.
I'd also like to point out that the current Wizards & Warriors X publication predates the Vault.
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How much time could be saved by taking damage?
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Now infrequently posting on BlueskywarmCabin wrote:
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2~5 seconds maybe.
Best place to do that is around 16200 with flying and and minotaur blocking the way.
Another good place may be at 22750 with 4 bat blocking the way. But after that, make sure to recover to at least 2.5 heart so you can take final boss attack twice down to a half heart.
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Vault rules have been clarified to reflect how we have historically treated submissions with speed/entertainment tradeoffs:
Opportunities to entertain the audience where it does affect time are discouraged, though not disallowed if the overall technical quality and optimization are up to par. A movie that does not have speed/entertainment tradeoffs will always be prioritized over one that does.
No actual rule changes have been made. This submission can be published as planned, though future submissions should take damage to save those 2-5 seconds.
TASvideos Admin and acting Senior Judge 💙 Currently unable to dedicate a lot of time to the site, taking care of family.
Now infrequently posting on BlueskywarmCabin wrote:
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