THIS IS NOT A SRAM MOVIE. Using Saved game to unlock bosses would probably allow for faster times, but this game isn't very well researched as there aren't many speedrun examples for it.
I take the path with the most enemies to finish the game, as it's considered the hardest challenge in Single Player mode, playing on Hard difficulty.
I improved over Palmon with Gabumon which has acess to the same glitch in more limited way but earlier and usage of the iron fist item which has knockdown property.
The glitch consists in using knockdown move special and some damage over time to have it's damage amplified while enemies are in a unescapable knockdown state. Gabumon does it with upB and then neutral B.
In this path chosen, for most of the fights chars can't be killed with falling out of the arena or walls don't exist in a safe space to combo enemies against it though so the character selection change a lot.. I believe some of the bosses that are unlockable could improve this.
Below are shared or universal abilities of all characters:
-Normal Attack A simple hit that upon connection makes an instant combo if tapped. You can also target your attack upwards or downwards by pressing in the desired direction. Attack upwards will juggle or knock air-bourne foes down. Attack downwards will usually sweep an opponent of their feet or hit a grounded opponent. Note that any special move will link after a Normal Attack combo, but that doesn't mean EVERY last interrupt will create an inescapable combo. If you press down+normal while in air, you will cause yourself to slam downwards and flatten foes. They will also be dizzed by this if you land directy on top of them. Certain characters will either perform a diagonal air-dive by pressing normal attack while air-bourne or an air-dash attack.
-Special Attack Varies from character to character, but in many instances the same result. By itself it usually performs a projectile. Combined by pressing up will usually result in an anti-air/uppercut attack. Lastly, combined by pressing down will usually perform the Digimon's most unique ability. Some special attacks can be charged or delayed by holding this button down.
-Jump Makes you jump quite obviously, but every single character can perform a double jump by pressing this twice, even tin cans and pinatas. One character can even triple jump and another can high jump.
-Gaurd You can gaurd while on the ground when either standing or crouching. This is interchangeable while holding the gaurd button down. You CANNOT air gaurd.
-Evo If your evolution meter is full and you are a first or second stage Digimon, you will evolve to your next stage. While evolving, you are invincible, including about three seconds after you finish evolving. Additionally, while evolving, your blue aura acts as a shield that will nullify projectiles and beams. If your Digimon is at its final stage, this button will activate its Ultra attack, which generally is the most powerful attack available to them. Also, during an Ultra attack, you are invulnerable.
-Healing If you have any evo energy in your meter, you can heal yourself gradually by holding down gaurd+normal attack. This will quickly drain your guage, but the small amount of vitality you gain could very well be worth it.
-Charge Blast If you press gaurd+special attack when your Digimon is in its final stage, it will perform a powerful attack. If you hold the two buttons down, you will charge the attack, making it more powerful or/and adding more shots or/and longer range. This attack always has a bit of start-up delay, so don't abuse it too often.
-Walk/Creep You can augment your movement speed by slightly leaning your joystick left or right. This, of course, is only possible through an analog control method (i.e. the GameCube's joystick) and not the cross pad.
-Grab Pressing the grab button will cause your Digimon to reach forward. If an opponent should be within reach, you will pick them up and be able to carry them. It is at this point that you can then throw them. It is espcially a good idea to toss them off into a pit or into a wall.
-Rapid Recover Rapidly mash directions to speed up your recovery rate getting up from the ground, air-recovery, dizziness or to escape a throw. You can also use this to escape from combos, if you're quick enough.
Judging relevant comments:
Considering the fact this game has literally a route for each boss and each boss is an unlockable by itself, it could be a case in which it would be publishable separate runs for each boss. This is just a thought and I hope the entertainment value and glitch novelty this run stands by itself even if this specific reasoning isn't considered valid. I have TASed this game before but this is the first time I thought the longest path could have something different to offer in terms of gameplay. The number of characters and different stage setups clearly favored more character experimentation than simply playing the shortest path.

eien86: Claiming for judging.

eien86: Replacing movie with one provided by the author here UserFiles/Info/638552284278410678

eien86: I was able to sync the movie. This is an SRAM movie insofar as the mem cards need to be 'initialized' for the movie to sync

eien86: Replacing with movie provided by the user where the ending sequence is shown.

eien86: Recategorizing goal to 'Hardest Path, No Unlockables'

eien86: This movie finishes the game using Gabumon and following the hardest path. I found the fights rather entertaining and pretty well optimized.
This movie is another entry in the chosen Alternative category, with the original (and faster) entry, [6077] GC Digimon Rumble Arena 2 "hardest path, savegame" by KusogeMan in 08:03.97 already occupies a place. Since this movie doesn't improve on the original, we cannot use it as replacement. Instead, we have decided to accept it into Playground where this, and all other movies in the same category and different character can co-exist. Just to make sure, we asked the community for opinions as to whether these two movies are fundamentally different but received no response. Therefore, we go ahead with our opinion.
Accepting to Playground

eien86: Rejudging based on new rules

eien86: The reason why this was put to PG due to the old rule set. This movie uses a different character (Gabumon) and this should be different enough to warrant its own publication (Alternative)
fsvgm777: Processing. Dimon12321 is handling the encodes for this one.


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Game looks like it was inspired by Smash Bros. which is nice! That little spinning thing of death with the flower pokemon digimon is really effective. In that one stage with the tubes, why not use that more instead of throwing the enemies around? In the previous stage you were just using the move and they were dying at a touch. Also, does this game have anything like down hits to help the pokemon on their way out when falling?
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You can see the stage has a low ceiling and the move I mostly use for setting up the knock down state is Up B special, a lot of the time the enemy falls very quickly to the floor and i can't use the OHKO glitch (UP B is not guaranteed so there is rng involved), I only started spamming the Down B special after I got Iron Fist powerup, which causes all attack to cause the knockdown state, it's the reason why at the end of the fight I can use it without setup, just positioning really.
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The movie file can be replaced by this one: https://tasvideos.org/UserFiles/Info/638552284278410678 It uses a completely new character and goes for the more immediate item which is iron knuckle, which causes knockdown and enables the firebreath to cause a lesser version of DOT glitch. I'm sorry for the viewers but a faster more acessible version of the glitch is a better solution after all. Link to video
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Hi Kusoge, At the very beginning of your submission notes, you claim "THIS IS NOT A SRAM MOVIE.". However, the movie file you provided indicates clearly that this is a SRAM start movie. Can you please confirm if you uploaded the correct movie or this wasn't intended?
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this is not a sram movie, it is a fresh savefile movie, it uses gabumon which is not an unlockable
TAS i'm interested: Megaman series, specially the RPGs! Where is the mmbn1 all chips TAS we deserve? Where is the Command Mission TAS? i'm slowly moving away from TASing fighting games for speed, maybe it's time to start finding some entertainment value in TASing.
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KusogeMan wrote:
this is not a sram movie, it is a fresh savefile movie, it uses gabumon which is not an unlockable
I still don't understand. If this movie starts from a savefile, do you provide a validation movie to generate said Savestate?
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fsvgm777: Just a quick note, the verification movie relies on a clean save file that's already present (i.e. you have to run the game once to generate it). Anyways, processing.
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Hi again Kusoge, I was able to sync the movie, but it ends just before you put your initials. You need to put those inputs in the movie for the ending scene to trigger. (Style recommendation: don't put AAA, but KSM or something like that)
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https://tasvideos.org/UserFiles/Info/638598471585987094 goes up to writing those letters for encoding: https://tasvideos.org/UserFiles/Info/638598471916868711 goes up to gabumon winscreen
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Here are my findings. This movie (from now on: NEW) is an alternative submission to that of the current publication ([6077] GC Digimon Rumble Arena 2 "hardest path, savegame" by KusogeMan in 08:03.97, from now on: OLD). Both movies set the game at its hardest difficulty (default), and pursue the 'hardest' path, which results in a final fight against Malomyotismon. In OLD, the goal is specified as 'longest', which may be incorrect. It should be renamed to 'hardest', which is the canonical pathing name in the game (hard is top, easy is bottom). In OLD, an unlockable boss character is used, which is not normally acceptable in human tournaments. It is noticeable how overpowered this character is and the 'abuse' of AI characters is visible. On the other hand, in NEW, a non-unlockable character, Gabumon, is used which, although perfectly played, seems a bit more of a struggle. That is the only noticeable difference between both movies. Since both OLD and NEW are candidates for alternative, the real question is whether these movies feel different to the community, so they can co-exist, or; they look similar, and compete with each other. In the latter option, this movie would be rejected (or set as playground) due to being less entertaining. I cannot decide one way or another, so I depend on the feedback of viewers and staff to provide their opinions. * Current movie encode: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E9ZdrBGAKVQ * New movie encode: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QThBYc6gpqM I'll give this at least a week to gather more opinions.
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honest questions, does this get published or is it just available somewhere that i dont know where it is?
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KusogeMan wrote:
honest questions, does this get published or is it just available somewhere that i dont know where it is?
It is in the section Playground under the publication section of the game page for now. If it gets published, a publisher will claim it and the status will be "publication underway" like usual.
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It got accepted now, and it will be published.
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I'm going to encode this one for publication
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This movie has been published. The posts before this message apply to the submission, and posts after this message apply to the published movie. ---- [6216] GC Digimon Rumble Arena 2 "hardest path" by KusogeMan in 07:50.08