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Dacicus wrote:
Could #7086: Dacicus's DOS Sorry Ass in 05:07.73 be published under the latest version of the rules?
Yes.
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Dimon12321 wrote:
Pretty optimized and interesting run. It can be published with an alternative goal #5489: Uroboros's GC Resident Evil 2 "Claire B" in 49:51.21
This would even fit into Standard by now, I think.
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#6351: arkiandruski's DS Elite Beat Agents "low score" in 1:00:52.99
Uh just to extend an explanation, the site now has a predecessor movie: [5258] GBA American Idol by ShesChardcore in 11:05.59 Two if you include Magic Star: [5949] DS Imagine: Movie Star "savegame, maximum score" by JHolleworth in 36:07.57 Mainly that it uses a verification to unlock hardest difficulty, but doesn't butcher any song like American Idol.
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I found #4779: xy2_'s DS New Zelda in 02:41.05, rejected due to stricter rules around homebrew.
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xy2_ wrote:
#1678: zggzdydp's GBA Castlevania: Circle of the Moon "100% map completion" in 46:58.05 rejected due to goal choice
I think this submission is very improvable but it will be great rechecking this goal :)
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In light of the recent policy changes (as described here: https://tasvideos.org/Forum/Topics/8694?CurrentPage=11&Highlight=532024#532024) I suggest going back through Gruefood Delight and seeing which submissions from there should be unrejected.
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Most TASes under the "Bad Game Choice" category are probably good to go if no improvements were found speedrun or TAS-wise since then.
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Problem is, most of the TASes in that category were cancelled, and last I checked, we don't unreject cancelled submissions.
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Hey there is at least 2 that can be rejudged. Sad that most were cancelled before they got judged.
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Every run I did cancel (and not just me I think) was because I was told it was gonna be rejected, so to save time or efforts on both ends. If uncancel is not a thing done by the site, most of the cancels for that reason will not be uncancel, either ppl are not active anymore or god knows what other reasons. I dont exactly see the problem since the credits are respected even while uncanceling. Lets not mention that many times, and im not alone in that case, runs were done on all difficulties to provide ground for the audiance to decide "we prefer easy mode over hard" or "we prefer this route over that one, makes more sence", all those runs would actually find a home now, would not mandatory need an encode (since they probly have one already) but instead a new submition, which there again inactive member would not be able to provide either. I suppose one way to "restrict" uncancel would be for exemple, do not "publish" things done on emulators no longer supported for submitions. So the re2 claire tas would be valid to uncancel, since its done on psxjin then no publishing, but at least it would give ground to redo the tas on bizhawk since it would be "accepted" material now. Edit: ok sorry in re2 case it was a dolphin movie not psxjin, the argument is still valid, and I know for sure there are others re2 psxjin movies in that same situation that got either rejected or canceled. (actually I even got one myself, with 90% upvotes)
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arukAdo wrote:
Every run I did cancel (and not just me I think) was because I was told it was gonna be rejected, so to save time or efforts on both ends. If uncancel is not a thing done by the site, most of the cancels for that reason will not be uncancel, either ppl are not active anymore or god knows what other reasons.
Authors are allowed to uncancel previously canceled submissions if they wish (and if they were the submitter). The site's movie rules have had significant changes in recent years, greatly expanding what kinds of movies are accepted for publication. If after reviewing the rules, and/or discussing with a judge whether old submissions might now be acceptable, you now feel like uncancelling a submission or submitting new work, you may certainly do so.
arukAdo wrote:
I dont exactly see the problem since the credits are respected even while uncanceling.
When a submitter or author cancels a submission, it means that they do not wish for the submitted work to be judged. It wouldn't be right for us to process (and potentially publish) work without consent of the author(s). If the author later wishes to proceed with the judgement process, then as noted above, they can freely do so. That all said, this thread is specifically for suggesting and documenting rejected submissions that might now be acceptable due to a rule change. Not to discuss the rules themselves or any other site policies.
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Bigbass wrote:
When a submitter or author cancels a submission, it means that they do not wish for the submitted work to be judged.
The whole premise was based on the fact that its not the case, its more of a way to save time and efforts on both ends. Its not something I would sometime do and sometime not, all my cancels are based on that premise. Now im not saying that to have a discusion about the rules themselves, just that "they do not wish to be judged" doesnt match whats really going on, in some cases. Inactive authors are just inactive, so theres no way either they would just magically uncancel their stuff because you deemed thats how it has to be done. The only reason I did post this, is because one my canceled tas was mentioned in this thread, and was replyed that "he did can it", which I only did because I was assured it was gonna be rejected. Theres no point either in uncancelling movies that are on defunct emulators on the principle, aside that it could motivate authors to actually refresh their runs on acceptable emus, which I would do personally if I was given the incentive to do so, and wouldnt if I was simply told they are still unacceptable. Suspended in that zombie state (pun intended), I still dunno if its acceptable material or not, under the new rules.
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arukAdo wrote:
Bigbass wrote:
When a submitter or author cancels a submission, it means that they do not wish for the submitted work to be judged.
The whole premise was based on the fact that its not the case, its more of a way to save time and efforts on both ends. Its not something I would sometime do and sometime not, all my cancels are based on that premise. Now im not saying that to have a discusion about the rules themselves, just that "they do not wish to be judged" doesnt match whats really going on, in some cases. Inactive authors are just inactive, so theres no way either they would just magically uncancel their stuff because you deemed thats how it has to be done.
Cancellations can happen for other reasons on a case-by-case basis. For example, an author might ask for a delay, and then disappear. A judge will likely cancel the run on behalf of the author. One way or another, cancellations effectively mean that we cannot proceed with judging until the author(s) choose to uncancel (or make a new submission). I cannot comment on what may or may not have been said to you in the past regarding the movies in question, as I wasn't active during that time. But regardless what the motivations were, it was still cancelled.
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I would propose to revisit #6901: arukAdo & EZGames69's Saturn Castlevania: Symphony of the Night in 10:11.80 There is actually 3 movies in there -the clean sram beats psx clean sram (18min) -the dirty sram beats psx dirty sram (12min) -the third run is far stretch and probly doesnt belong anywhere now since it might be a seperate category alltogether (reset glitch), I suppose it technically doesnt "beat" psx per say, its just they are shorter.
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#2003: max12187566's NES Super Lion King in 05:24.38 Unless this is not well optimized and the ROM choice thing is still an issue, I think this one should get another chance.
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#1572: mr_roberts_z's N64 Super Mario 64 "Coinless-Cannonless-Capless" in 1:03:10.80 and #2976: Kaylee, MICKEY_Vis11189, Moltov, Nahoc, SilentSlayers, snark, sonicpacker & Eru's N64 Super Mario 64 "16 stars" in 13:28.40 are two Gruefood Delight submissions that I believe should be revisited due to the loosening of the branch restrictions. They're both very old submissions, and thus could benefit from further optimizations, but they should suffice for now.
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For the first one it's an extremely old TAS (17 years ago) where it may be better to have a major revision. As for 16 Star. There's allegedly progress being made for a more definitive one in which the route/run is allegedly being revised continuously (much like 120). There's also an SBLJless TAS that's faster than that unrestricted 16 Star TAS, just to like prove that there's room for improvement.
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JD wrote:
#1572: mr_roberts_z's N64 Super Mario 64 "Coinless-Cannonless-Capless" in 1:03:10.80 and #2976: Kaylee, MICKEY_Vis11189, Moltov, Nahoc, SilentSlayers, snark, sonicpacker & Eru's N64 Super Mario 64 "16 stars" in 13:28.40 are two Gruefood Delight submissions that I believe should be revisited due to the loosening of the branch restrictions. They're both very old submissions, and thus could benefit from further optimizations, but they should suffice for now.
For the first coinless cannon-less capless one, [4490] N64 Super Mario 64 "1 key" by Tyler Kehne, mkdasher, sonicpacker, snark, SilentSlayers, ToT, Plush, Dabs, Gaehne D, Eru, sm64expert, dar gos, Superdavo0001 & IsaacA in 04:18.98 outright makes that category unneeded since it does the same thing.
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I just discovered #5655: Cyorter's Wii Fast Draw Showdown in 10:41.27, which was rejected for violating rules that are no longer in force. Kinda reminds me of #9397: EZGames69's SegaCD Mad Dog McCree in 08:30.31, which as I'm writing this is currently being judged.
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I just happened across three more Gruefood Delight submissions filed under the "Bad Game Choice" category: #2037: DarkKobold's SegaCD Dragon's Lair in 10:45.65, #4237: RealMyop's SNES Super Road Blaster in 17:21.21, and #2682: MUGG's GBA WarioWare, Inc.: Mega Microgames! in 29:19.45. The first two are FMV games akin to the aforementioned Fast Draw Showdown and Mad Dog McCree, in the sense that they were deemed to be trivial in an age where that was a factor. The description for the WarioWare submission on the Gruefood page implies speed was a factor in it being cancelled, which I think is bit dubious given that playarounds were a thing even back then. I should note that while MUGG is still active to this very day, DarkKobold's profile says they have not logged on since January, so it might be hard to get ahold of them.

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