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This movie is the TAS of Metroid Legacy, which is one of the most famous hacks of Super Metroid. It was completed in June 2005, and had already been published at a certain Japanese website. Having a chance, I'm just submitting it into the worldwide community for the first time.

Metroid Legacy Introduction

"Metroid Legacy" is well-balanced, full-changed hack of Super Metroid.
Features of this hack are following.
  • Almost all of the landforms, placement of enemies, room connections, item order are changed.
  • It contains whole new world that is not associated with original world.
  • Upgraded game difficulty throughout all scenes, especially boss fights.
  • No change of game systems like movement of Samus and enemies, graphic-chips, 100 items.
  • No need of gilche knowledge to complete game.
The whole new world, which is entirely differ from original world, spreads out in this game. You can enjoy new exploration, searching routes, looking for required items, fighting enemies. Operation of Samus is same to original one, so you can play it smoothly. You will re-experience the first impression of Super Metroid.

Information

  • Author ... Mr.BananaOyaji
  • Link ... 任天丼！
  • IPS Version ... 1.06
  • Original ROM ... Super Metroid (J).smc
For download the ips patch, go to this site :任天丼！
And push the link "ハックロム"(second left of the top), then choose "メトロイドレガシー " (middle of the top). For apllying this ips patch to the original rom to create hack rom, use WINIPS http://www47.tok2.com/home/smblabo
Critical_five: I think the link given above is broken; you may download the ips at Romhacking.net.

Movie introduction

This smv movie was created with Snes9x-143-WIP1-win32 (WIP!!) and it
  • takes damage to save time
  • gets all items, 100%
  • aims for the fastest time
  • shows all secret routes in this game
  • runs through almost reverse order, unbelievable and stupid routes
  • contains several new tricks which may apply to original game.
Although speed run technique used in this movie may be old-fashioned, whole routing in 100% run of Legacy must be still fresh and full of originality. I believe you will have an enjoyable time for watching it, and for the sake of your best fun, I strongly recommend you to play Metroid Legacy with your own hand before watching my movie. Thank you!

New Tricks contained

  • Torizo quickest kill
    • It save time for 1-2 second(s) to beat Torizo by skipping one of his attack phases.
  • Sprore Spawn quickest kill
    • It kills him in second turn by using muscle way.
  • hopping ball / spring dash (I dont know how to name it...)
    • Samus keeps her speed through narrow pipe or other complex situation by using spring ball.

Information

  • Play Length : 1h 26min
  • Re-record count：26514
  • Clear Time : 49min
  • Colecting Item Rate : 100%
  • Emulator : Snes9x-143-WIP1-win32

Acknowledgment

I must say sorry for Bisqwit to submit it so late though I received his favor about 2 month ago. And also say "thank you" for the permission of Metroid Legacy. In addition, thanks to Terimakasih, Sippu and Kejardon for teaching me techniques and more informations. Lastly, very thank you BananaOyaji-san (Legacy author) for making this excellent hack.
cancelled by catnap222 (2006-07-12)

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Posted: 6/19/2006 5:33 AM
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marioguy
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The hack page is in japanese. I can't find where I can download it. Can someone give a link to an english website?
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Posted: 6/19/2006 6:52 AM
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marioguy wrote:
The hack page is in japanese. I can't find where I can download it. Can someone give a link to an english website?
If you read the instructions on the first page it woulden't be that hard. Even though the hackrom page is crapped. Seems optimized for a monitor that has a resolution of 2048x1536. :D Anyways. Here's the direct link. http://sukamax.hp.infoseek.co.jp/file/Metroid_Legacy.zip
Posted: 6/28/2006 3:11 AM
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Why hasn't this been published yet?
Posted: 6/28/2006 4:45 AM
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Because this movie is not worth being published. :P I know the reasons and accept this dicision. I will challenge this TAS again, maybe in this summer. The only thing Im worrying about is whether TASVIDEOS.ORG accept the TAS of Metroid Legacy again or not. Now there is an another awesome Super Metroid hack: Super Metroid Redesign. If TASVIDEOS.ORG accept 1 hack at 1 game and choose SMR for SM hack, there is no reason to remake my Legacy movie. I want to ask this problem to Bisqwit. :)
Posted: 6/28/2006 5:52 AM
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For what it's worth, in my opinion this hack is excellent and should be added to the list of accepted hacks. I'm looking forward to your new run, catnap!
Posted: 6/28/2006 4:10 PM
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Bob A>Why hasn't this been published yet? Because no judge has looked at it and made a decision. You can pester them in the IRC channel and try to force one to take a look at it. Kyrsimys: If by "this hack" you mean Metroid Legacy, it's already added to the list of accepted hacks: http://tasvideos.org/Rules.html#hacked_and_homebrew_games_are_not_allowed_
Posted: 6/28/2006 4:12 PM
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Truncated wrote:
Because no judge has looked at it and made a decision. You can pester them in the IRC channel and try to force one to take a look at it.
Or you can pester Truncated.
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Posted: 6/28/2006 4:15 PM
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I was about to write something like this in the previous post, but I didn't: I don't feel qualified to judge this movie because I'm not familiar with this SM hack (and the last time moozooh convinced me to try one, all I got was irritated from getting lost and dying all the time). So I hope someone else can take this one.
Posted: 6/28/2006 4:16 PM
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I am also unqualified to judge this hack: 1) I haven't even played SNES metroid games 2) I am biased against hacks being published on the site (except for bugfixes & possibly translations).
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Posted: 6/28/2006 4:30 PM
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Truncated wrote:
I was about to write something like this in the previous post, but I didn't: I don't feel qualified to judge this movie because I'm not familiar with this SM hack (and the last time moozooh convinced me to try one, all I got was irritated from getting lost and dying all the time). So I hope someone else can take this one.
Just to make sure you're not confusing anything: I wanted you to try "Metroid Redesign" hack, which probably was the one mentioned by Kyrsimys in his last post. As I've beaten both Legacy and Redesign, I must say that since catnap222 is already TASing Legacy, there's no reason for excluding it from the list of accepted hacks now. On the other hand, Metroid Redesign is better than Legacy in almost every aspect (well, except movie length, hehe), so it should be considered for adding, too, as all the physics engine enhancements it introduced, the level design and a lot of possible sequence breaks allow for a great TAS which certainly will get tackled by somebody as long as it is allowed for publication here. Redesign is a hack of SDW level of quality — furthermore, it's more like a new game, so it should have its fair share of attention here, in TAS community.
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Posted: 6/28/2006 6:46 PM
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adelikat wrote:
I am biased against hacks being published on the site (except for bugfixes & possibly translations).
Why?
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Posted: 6/28/2006 7:00 PM
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Becuase I agree with the rules of this site.
Rules wrote:
The games must be real The movie should look like it could have been played with an authentic hardware. This makes it more familiar to the audience. This details to the following points: Hacked and homebrew games are not allowed Generally, we only accept hacks which only make the game playable on an emulator. We do not accept hacked games (gfx hacks, level hacks, music/sound hacks, dialog hacks and so on).
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Posted: 6/28/2006 7:09 PM
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Rules were made to be broken :) MWUHAHAHAH!
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Posted: 6/28/2006 7:10 PM
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My job as a judge is to follow the rules as closely as possible. If you want an exception to the rules it will require a green light from Bisqwit.
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Posted: 6/28/2006 7:11 PM
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Isn't that what we have here though (at least for the hack itself)?
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Posted: 6/28/2006 7:18 PM
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Hmm, that actually gave me an idea. If some hacks eventually get allowed here as an exception, there must be a reason for it, right? I think Bisqwit should add a couple of lines to the rules that would justify the allowed hacks and also give us some space for deciding which of them comply to the defined criteria.
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Posted: 6/28/2006 7:19 PM
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moozooh wrote:
Hmm, that actually gave me an idea. If some hacks eventually get allowed here as an exception, there must be a reason for it, right? I think Bisqwit should add a couple of lines to the rules that would justify the allowed hacks and also give us some space for deciding which of them comply to the defined criteria.
Agreed. Though I still exercise my right to not judge any of them ;)
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Posted: 6/28/2006 7:21 PM
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something like "hack should be [b]final[/b], conceptual, interesting, well-known and worth TASing?"
Posted: 6/28/2006 9:23 PM
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adelikat wrote:
Becuase I agree with the rules of this site.
oh come on, don't just quote the parts you like.
This rule can be bent only by special permission ― you must ask a permission beforehand before going to make a movie of a patched game. Currently these games have special permissions: [...] * メトロイドレガシー (Metroid Legacy) last update 2005-05-12
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Posted: 6/28/2006 9:25 PM
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adelikat wrote:
My job as a judge is to follow the rules as closely as possible. If you want an exception to the rules it will require a green light from Bisqwit.
It already has
Rules wrote:
 This rule can be bent only by special permission ― you must ask a permission beforehand before going to make a movie of a patched game. Currently these games have special permissions: * Super Demo World version 1.00 * Super Demo World - The Legend Continues version 1.10 * メトロイドレガシー (Metroid Legacy) last update 2005-05-12[/quote]
Posted: 6/28/2006 9:25 PM
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I was asked my opinion on hacks. So I simply quoted the part I agree with.
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Posted: 6/28/2006 9:30 PM
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I am thinking of doing a any% TAS of Super Metroid Redesign next year, however this will require very much work so it would be great to know for sure whether SM Redesign will be accepted on TASvideos as another Metroid Hack or not. It's just too bad the rules allow only one hack per game, but since SM Redesign has completely changed physics that are very different to the original game and even some more movements the original don't has at all (like the Shinespark re-charge or the new screw attack boost that would allow a awesome looking TAS) this could be considred as a seperate hack. As moozooh said, and I can only agree with him, SM Redesign has definitely the level of the SDW - TLC Hack in quality so I would like to ask whether we can make a tiny exception and just in this case allow both hacks. I think this would be the best choice. I already did a nice and pretty high quality TAS-demo of Redesign till the Wall jump boots in Brinstar, so if someone is interested or if it would help in the judging of the hack I could post the SMV in the Redesign tread. However Legacy definitely shouldn't be replaced by Redesign as it's also a very nice hack that already has a complete TAS done which catnap even plans to improve.
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Posted: 6/28/2006 9:31 PM
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P.JBoy wrote:
adelikat wrote:
My job as a judge is to follow the rules as closely as possible. If you want an exception to the rules it will require a green light from Bisqwit.
It already has
Rules wrote:
 This rule can be bent only by special permission ― you must ask a permission beforehand before going to make a movie of a patched game. Currently these games have special permissions: * Super Demo World version 1.00 * Super Demo World - The Legend Continues version 1.10 * メトロイドレガシー (Metroid Legacy) last update 2005-05-12
[/quote] okay, okay sorry, I got this game confused with Metroid redesign. This one of course could be published in accordance with the rules.
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Posted: 7/12/2006 12:49 PM
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Sabikage wrote:
This isn't a criticism on the performance of the author so much as the fact that a 100% run is just not entertaining. The hack doesn't really introduce anything new to the game beyond a different map, nor is the map design inspired or new enough to make the different level design interesting for a TAS. 90 minutes is a long time to be sitting watching any individual speedrun, especially speedruns which do not significantly vary from existing runs (the regular Super Metroid runs on the site were actually more interesting because I was unfamiliar with the tricks associated and seeing them used in familiar places to do unfamiliar things made the runs interesting. Seeing them used again in unfamiliar places is not as novel).
I would like to re-iterate Sabikage's post as it sums up my arguments more eloquently than I probably would have. There is no doubt that this run is entertaining but I question whether it is a better choice than an any% run. Would any of the yes voters here vote no on an any% run? I doubt it. But you would also get a lot of others (including me) voting yes.
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Posted: 7/15/2006 8:55 PM
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woah, i didn't even realise this was eaten by grue
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