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Dr Doppietta wrote:
That's good! If PCSX2-rr would be allowed one day, or if I get on Dolphin and play the GC version, this could be the perfect opportunity to submit a video.
PCSX2-rr is using hacky emulation to get the job done, so not for the foreseeable future no.
Probably when DobieStation will get to that day without the relying on hacks that PCSX2 is doing (and being pluginless). However, that day will take time.
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Archanfel wrote:
I just asked to have standard movie description for Comix Zone without excessive note on emulation flaws to be equal with hundreds of other published movies descriptions.
And I asked you to create a list for movies to enjoy this lovely note. If you have a problem with it.
(To which you responded "No Thanks.")
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But instead of it you continue oppression of Gens users.
Have a boat.
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It floats.
(For the ones that don't get it: Whatever floats your boat.)
For an actual response to this bit.
Have you seen the notes provided on PCSX-rr/PSXjin TASes?
Heck, I'm currently going over the entire batch just to add more notes for some of them.
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A video dealing with the differences:
Link to video
This is also probably the perfect opportunity to write this:
It's possible for sake of the game to have two submissions down to the layout differences.
PS2/GameCube on one side.
PC/Xbox on the other.
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Considering you took it out of order and set it to your liking and well:
<r57shell> probably. I don't care :b
That. Let's just play the requotes and rehashing with some of this.
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Spikestuff wrote:
The only person who gave a valid point whilst you and Archanfel were shitposting was WST.
Please, can you describe what is valid point, and what is invalid point regarding emu selection? If there is some section in submission rules it would be best.
Please, can you describe what is a valid point to when people are literally shitposting on this discussion board about a Shrek is Love, Shrek is Life copypasta it would be best.
And a note, you dropped this when returning a point just then:
Spikestuff wrote:
Let's look over this submission's discussion where it was first called out. Since we're going to play detectives.
As well as literally next paragraph:
Spikestuff wrote:
Now let's jump over to the Jurassic Park.
OH MY GOD WOULD YOU LOOK AT THAT.
REASONS AND JUSTIFICATIONS WITH ACTUAL DISCUSSION (and that one other comment) AND CRITICISMS.
And guess what. All talks about emulation was mainly placed there not here.
The point I put forth was about actual discussion on WHY Gens was being used, not tinfoil hat discussions.
My points are pretty much covered by those who pretty much said accuracy would be nice with the emulator. If you wanted a valid point to emu selection. Which you were quick to dismiss.
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Are you saying that we need to force someone to write code? Sounds like a plan.
Congrats on volunteering yourself.
There was work on this being done for this but progress of that is similar to a broken down coaster.
(Alternatively build a new one from scratch rather than porting to a foundation.)
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And I'll just pinpoint this one, since the entire bit is just garbage.
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Even though I have now bizhawk 1.13.0 - it still has some issues.
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Evil_3D wrote:
I'm a favor to remove the last words of the movie description, don't have sense unless some users have planning on mark every innacuracy on every movie on the site, seriously, we need to stop this bullsh*t.
Rehashing.
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Well if you have such an issue with the description and asking for an adjustment on 170 movies then create the list of those that have the very notable audio issues that Gens gives to movies such as this one.
53 of those Gens TASes are created in 2014 to 2018 so 117 of those 170 are excused.
Because Archanfel provided his submission list I'll just point it out.
He's had every chance to use BizHawk as the main emulator for Genesis since joining the site but hasn't.
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Spike what's with the specific time frame?
1.6.0a the Genesis Core was introduced to Hawk in 2014.
(I go further about this in the second point)
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Second, when we give our valid points about why we still used gens, some others still said to us to do a valid asnwer of why do you really use gens. It's our personal point of view/situation a valid answer or simply a empty word for other users?
Please don't play coy with me.
Let's look over this submission's discussion where it was first called out. Since we're going to play detectives.
The only person who gave a valid point whilst you and Archanfel were shitposting was WST.
Now let's jump over to the Jurassic Park.
OH MY GOD WOULD YOU LOOK AT THAT.
REASONS AND JUSTIFICATIONS WITH ACTUAL DISCUSSION (and that one other comment) AND CRITICISMS.
One of those reasons that are there is "MY COMPUTER IS SHIT" (paraphrased) which is somewhat valid especially if you haven't upgraded your system in 4+ years... and I thought my oldest system was shit, but that runs Hawk fine.
Linux support is a great reason too. The push is needed for you folks to actually needs to port it to something that already has a foundation in the Linux area for the better emulator, aka lsnes. Since WINE isn't doing the job for you.
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Dr Doppietta wrote:
Your thoughts?
Make a GameCube topic merging Budokai, Budokai 2 and Sagas together...
Then make a Wii topic merging Budokai Tenkaichi 2, Budokai Tenkaichi 3 and Revenge of King Piccolo together.
Change the topic for this one to be; Budokai 3, Budokai Tenkaichi, Super DBZ and Infinite World.
Similar to how Tekken 1-3 is set up.
And I write to split the consoles mainly for a simple reason, some of the DBZ games on PS2 are on the GameCube/Wii which means we could have submissions.
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Archanfel wrote:
171 of them made in Gens. Descriptions for other 170 movies has no mention about inaccurately in Gens emulation, it is not fair to have such note only in this movie.
Well if you have such an issue with the description and asking for an adjustment on 170 movies then create the list of those that have the very notable audio issues that Gens gives to movies such as this one.
53 of those Gens TASes are created in 2014 to 2018 so 117 of those 170 are excused.
Spike what's with the specific time frame?
1.6.0a the Genesis Core was introduced to Hawk in 2014.
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Aktan ≠ feos
Also using the Aktan method isn't complicated, it's straight forward and a note Aktan isd doing a straight to 4:3 method not organized cleanly like, and to emphasis the name before you read the wrong person's post again feos'.
And if you are literally having issues just download the Easy HD provided by Samsara.
Which is two topics below this one.
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Do you do two resizes in Virtualdub?.
Actual encoders use an AVISynth script. An example of a script (this one's quite outdated).
The 4:3 aspect is based on feos' script which can be seen here in its early state.
The method I've stated is for VirtualDub but can be translated easily to AVISynth.
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Ok, let's go through it.
Tekken 3 is a 368x480 game (ignoring the overscan).
And my target is 1080p (4:3) for this case since going over that for personal encodes is dumb.
Upscale by x4 with a Nearest Neighbor.
Readjust the X by making the video 4:3 (lanczos).
Downscale back down to 1080p (lanczos).
Now you have an encode.
Now I can't recall which emulator Astaroth was using back then but if memory serves me correctly it was PSXjin (since you can tell by his Tekken 2 TASes).
Due to his different methods he's gone and thrown a smoothing filter over it to "clean" it up.
Which is why it looks "smooth", which in reality is worse than having the raw detail.
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Probably add a check for higher than 65 for those other systems cause I'd reckon half rate would be better.
Edit: Masterjun's edit made me think feos just posted... So-- enjoy the bump. Whoops.
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Same methods apply to not BizHawk. You didn't bring up that you can't Hawk.
Your answer to resolution was in the provided topic. That's what you get for skipping.
That's Anamorphic Widescreen to a game that doesn't actually support it. It's a trash encode.
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You asked me this question in a private message and you ignored the answer completely and went here. With a different encode too.
I'm repeating it.
The current PS1 TASing emulator is BizHawk.
For Dumping PS1 with Hawk.For an encoding script that you can use.
You skipped the two steps and went for the link to here for any issues you would face after receiving the tools to do it yourself.
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Once the WIP is completed then they can obsolete this publication. Or someone else can come along and incorporate both together.
I don't see why we should wait until the WIP is finished when they've had plenty of time to work on their movie and have obviously had other priorities.
Vice versa. I don't see why we should have a TAS that was rushed which is evident by a WIP that was made which can show the case of "it's already obsolete before it was even submitted".
You want a movie that was ACCEPTED and was under PUBLISHING and see that it got REJECTED this year from a WIP (before the WIP was completed)? Here you go.
(Fun Fact on this one, it was actually real close to Publication, I would know. I was the Publisher.)
As a better note. We also have a movie currently in the submission pile (besides this one) which will be rejected for the same reason. This is the movie for the same reason.
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Currently this is the best run available.
No it isn't. This one is for what exists.
As for you last "point", get over yourself and quit attempting to save something that's plagued with issues.
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Let's not TAS on an emulator full of hacks. Thanks.
And if you want a suggestion. It's called DobieStation.
One that's young and is full of potential on not being loaded with hacks beyond the brim.
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What do you mean by borders? Forced Pillarboxes you're putting in place?
Encodes are generally the video in pixel perfect upscalled then placed into the 4:3 resolution to make it clean to how it would be on TV.
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The subtitles got cut off at the bottom of the screen
Nope. Let me redirect you: Go Here.
Let me create another example of an error on YouTube's behalf.
A good chunk of encodes created by feos on feos' YouTube account (one of the three) has artifacting errors due to YouTube being garbage... that's what's classified as a report.
To make that more useful a list would be beneficial. The course of action redoing all of feos' encodes the effected encodes.
An encode error by something that's not trivial should be brought on the page the movie belongs to.
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By most games you just meant Sonic right?
Where were you when Comix Zone was submitted and you could've criticized the TAS' audio? Oh right, you were praising the broken sound.
> The Test Proves This... So-- No shit Sherlock... Let's all go back to snes9x with it's horrible graphical bugs and say screw higan/bsnes.
Comix Zone. Have fun attempting to Console Verify that.
And I don't care about tinfoil hats much like you don't care about accuracy.
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electricslide wrote:
Well then. I suppose that settles that...
Great movie. Good luck chatterbox!
It doesn't settle anything when a movie exists that obsoletes this one at an opening segment before it was even submitted.
It doesn't matter that a segment is being redone when there is evidence that this is sloppy.
Recall to my first post on this thread and the notable issues was0x brought forth that the author didn't.
This movie was rushed and we shouldn't be giving a hand to attempt to save it due to this.
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