Rockman 2 – Dr. Wily No Nazo!? TAS by Shinryuu
”Ignore my bad english please” (Bisqbot/Bots were not used)

”Fixed version includes”
  • Aims for fastest time as possible
  • Abuses death (see Woodman & Crashman)
  • Abuses screenscrolling
  • Takes damage to save time
  • Abuses programming errors
  • No passwords
  • Manipulates luck
Obsoletes previous run by 76 frames / 1,26 seconds
Time: 90103 frames / 00:25:02 Seconds
Re-Record Count : 107660
”Improvements”
  • Wily 2 – 56 frames were lost (different weapon usage)
  • Wily 3 – 79 frames gained total
  • Wily 4 – 7 frames were lost (i had to play some parts again becouse of pixel-position of item1s / 4 frames were lost to blackscreen)
  • Wily 5 -
  • Airman = 0
  • Heatman = 0 (1 frame lost somewhere after the battle) (same timing as previous version had)
  • Woodman = 0
  • Bubbleman = 0
  • Quickman = 1 frame was lost due the randomness
  • Crashman = 1 frame was lost due the randomness
  • Metalman = 0 frames ? (2 frames were lost somewhere before the teleport)
  • Flashman = 0
  • Wily Machine = 0
Wily 6 - 6 frames were gained due the randomness of pixel-position Wily alien – 0

About my working etc. ( I have spent over 2 years playing Rockman2 and trying to ”study” how everything works correctly)
I decided to work myself this time and I really enjoyed my time while making this. I'm a really big fan of Rockman / Mega Man games, like my friend AngerFist :)
Thanks for everyone who have ”supported” me and watched my special WIPs Special thanks goes to FinalFighter who discovered Crashman and Woodman stage death abusing techniques and to Bisqwit for being nice and helping me out if I asked something :)
About the run ”small talk”
Most of the improvements came from Woodman & Crashman ”death abusing techniques” (glitches saved around 400 frames / 6,66 seconds)
I have told this thing many times in IRC but I need to say it because everyone need to know what happens in my movie. In this movie randomness and frame rule tries to ruin my gameplay *sobs*
NOTE ! I copypasted Bisqwit's insane Wily2 boss fighting.
Please enjoy this stuff !

Bisqwit: Submission file replaced from author's partial remaking. It's now 76 frames faster.
Bisqwit: Accepting (again, Shinryuu had deleted the previous accepted marker), and processing.


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This topic is for the purpose of discussing #1375: Shinryuu's NES Mega Man 2 in 25:01.72
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Awesome! I watched many WIP's and movie is great! Hell Yes ;)
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Me too. I watched many WIP's from of our beloved, funny and golden memeber Shinryuu. You sir, have proved many times your independency. Top notch work, voting yes :)
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Guys I come from the DidyKnogRacist communite, and you are all wrong, tihs is the run of the mileniun and everyone who says otherwise dosnt know any bater! I found this run vary ease to masturbate too!!!! Don't fuck with me, I know this game so that mean I'm always right!StupedfackincommunityTASVideoz!!!!!!
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I enjoyed this movie in which hands firmly gripping a shaft lead to balls deep in multiple holes.
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I don't want to get involved in this discussion, but as a point of fact C# is literally the first goddamn thing on that fucking page you linked did you even fucking read it
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Bisqwit wrote:
moozooh wrote:
Well, actually, Bisqwit was talking of something like 3 seconds, not 4 frames…
Yep, 4 frames would be a more realistic estimate though :) I was giving the "if the world was perfect and the moon was brighter" type estimates.
Glad to see this statement disproven, and hooray for the man's victory over the machine! :D
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Nice improvement, obvious yes vote.
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Looks very well improved version of the cerrently published one. A "yep" vote from me ;)
Which run should I encode next? :)
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I just watched this, and it was great. :) Easy Yes vote from me.
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Good, solid improvement. God, how I love the sound of 30 hz metal blade.
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the improvement is remarcable yes vote
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Shinryuu, I'm extremely impressed. You managed to improve this already tightly optimized run by a whole 7 seconds. And without the aid of Bisqbot. A yes vote of course.
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Rockman 2 is one of my favorite of the series so this movie is easily taken in as I gladly watched it. Superior optimization is all I can see throughout this movie and I'm sorry you lost ~19 frames because of the randomness. It's very entertaining all the way through so I did enjoy it very much. Congratulations on such an improvement, it was fun to see. You know you're getting my yes vote.
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Indeed. A 7 second improvement with the use of new glitches on rockman2 is pretty good. The death glitch's were perfmormed perfect. Nice work Shinryuu!(I also say nice work to the helpers who made this improvement possible) Yes vote.
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WOW! Gotta watch this. Awesome improvement. Will be delightful to watch this baby. When are we going to see the sub 25min run BTW? X-mas gift perhaps? Hehe. Cheers!
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Nice improvements. I look forward to more new Rockman movies.
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I was suprised to read the frame savings of each level. It felt like so much more. Over all this run seems much more polished over the previous run. So many little details were thought through. The death glitches were awsome. First mm now rm2 have death as a shortcut, crazy. (yes vote)
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So I guess that thing I heard about Crash Bombs's explosion killing Quick Man in one hit isn't true? Look at my hand, I just threw something!
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I liked the previous version, and I liked this better. Yes vote. Plus, this game has the best music stage of any Megaman game that I've seen- Bubbleman stage!
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moozooh wrote:
Glad to see this statement disproven
Yeah, I guess I did fail to add a "given present knowledge of the game" clause to my estimate, or iow. "unless a new technique is discovered", which was. Congratulations for the frame improvements in each stage, Shinryuu.
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Woah thanks a lot about your comments.. Bisqwit no proplem thanks goes to you becouse this great site "NESvideos/TASvideos" EXISTS ! :)
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Awesome! Great death glitches! By the way, there are two Bubbleman and no Heatman in your message "Wily 5".
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hisatoki wrote:
Awesome! Great death glitches! By the way, there are two Bubbleman and no Heatman in your message "Wily 5".
Thanks :) i fixed the error i didn't noticed it hehe
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I like this. The zipping through walls causing crazy bugs is just great. Would-be yes. Definately.
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The new glitches are nice... You did a superb work Shinryuu... When will the improvements for this game stop... I hope never, because it's delightful to see such good works
Not dead yet... still very busy... damn...
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Xaphan wrote:
The new glitches are nice... You did a superb work Shinryuu... When will the improvements for this game stop... I hope never, because it's delightful to see such good works
Xaphan you have done great work on MMZ GBA games you should be proud of it :) i don't know i am 99% sure there shouldn't be any big or even little improvements in my run "i saved 7.01 seconds more than current published movie" expect randomness what i wasn't able to manipulate and yes this is going to be boring if there is no more improvements in Mega Man runs :| "Mega Man/Rockman runs are heading to destruction" thanks for your commenting - Shinryuu
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Somehow, you managed to avoid the splash animation at the end of Bubbleman stage before the Wily door. Weird. So you did not utilize Item1 trick in Wily3 after all (right after the robotic fishes). Why's that? Congratulations on improvements in Wily4. It pays off to think differently.