This topic is for the purpose of discussing #2756: marzojr's Genesis Tails in Sonic The Hedgehog in 14:16.43

I, uh, procured several versions of this game's ROM and none seemed to play back properly, including the ones used for the previous version of the run. Are you sure the information is correct? e: thanks marzo

Encode on its way.

@stiltzkin: You got the wrong ROM. In any event, I updated the submission to include a link to the hack, explicitly stating the version used too to avoid any chances of ambiguities.

have you tried taking my route from the my sonic run in lab 1 and zipping the whole way, ending under the flag pole? of course you'd have to be able to fly long enough to not die while the points were adding up.

have you tried taking my route from the my sonic run and zipping the whole way, ending under the flag pole? of course you'd have to be able to fly long enough to not die while the points were adding up.

If you talk about Green Hill Zone 2, it is not possible, because Puto fixed the solidity of that wall, since it's just too easy for Tails to use that trick. Also, necessary yes vote for improvement.

Encode is here: http://www.mediafire.com/?99afaaa70auhvd4 Suggested screenshot: For those too lazy to download: http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xe49mr_tails-in-sonic-1-tas-in-14-16-68-by_videogames

@FuzZerd: You mean in Star Light 2? If so yes, I tried; it didn't and up being faster (Tails currently finishes it in 0:10::11, while Sonic does in 0:10::38; Tails can't gain enough frames at the start to make up for the difference).

Thanks for the encode, Toothache! The run looked good, to my admittedly untrained eye. The skip at the end of Scrap Brain 2 was quite noticeable; I'm guessing it basically amounts to getting over to the right before the floor is in place or something along those lines. I'm amused at how many of the Robotnik fights follow the pattern of "Robotnik does an attack, then he drops low enough for Sonic to hit him once or twice, then he flies out of range and does another attack, etc." Which of course Tails gets to completely subvert. I suggest the screenshot be Tails yawning during the final boss fight.

er woops, I meant in labyrinth 1. but I'm not sure you'd be able to save time with it anyway, tails takes that top route pretty fast.

Ah, Labyrinth 1. Yes, Tails goes pretty fast; but despite all my attempts (which weren't few, I tell you), I have been unable to reproduce that zip: Tails hits the wall on the right, and I haven't been able to get inside it. I think it may be related to the different hitbox size placing Tails too low and to the right compared to Sonic, combined with not enough space to slow down enough to compensate.

Definitely a cool run, great job. Voted yes.

Huge sonic fan, big yes vote! Now lets see this run again but with all the chaos emeralds in our hands and not in Eggman hands!

Nice improvement! Is anyone planning on improving the Knuckles run with findings like these?

Nice improvement! Is anyone planning on improving the Knuckles run with findings like these?

I was, a while ago. I promptly forgot about it until I saw this in the queue.

At first, I was skeptical about whether a hacked rom was okay to publish or not. Then I saw the run :) Awesome speed here, it's just amazing. I wonder if any bugs exploited here were a result of programming errors while coding Tails into the game?

Most of the glitches were also used in the sonic run, so not really

I went with a meh. For some reason, Tails just didn't do it for me like sonic or knuckles. He seemed to slow way down at times, especially when he began to fly. This didn't happen every time, but it was enough to bother me.

I give that if to this movie, but I've improved the folowing area Star Light Zone (act 2). MarzoJr did it in 10.11, and I, I did it in: 10.04. Here I have the movie http://www.mediafire.com/?zc5de2pbcq5mq6p Note: I could not upload it in dehacked.2y.net because the page does not me works Yputube http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NE--pnRfUzE Download (Encoded) http://www.mediafire.com/?g5ge3937ok0dble

Nice! You found the right combination! I tried several times and always had failed -- I always lost time. But not to be outdone, I went ahead and improved your movie by 17 frames, down to 0:9::47. Sub-10! Here is the movie. I will update the submission and credit you accordingly.

Hmm. I am now at a loss: by the submission guidelines, it seems I must cancel this submission and submit the improved run; is that correct?

If it's a minor improvement (which by all appearances this is), just ask a judge to replace the submission file. Otherwise, yes, you'd normally cancel and resubmit.

The submission (and sumbission text) has been changed. For everyone that already voted, if you think your vote might change, be sure to watch it again.

I voted yes, but man I wish Tails didn't get to fly for so long. Makes a lot of this run really boring that could have been as awesome as the parts where he doesn't get to fly. Also the poor boss fights. They made me sad.