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Posted: 11/6/2012 2:19 PM
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Masterjun
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might as well post something here :)
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Posted: 11/6/2012 3:43 PM
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Lil_Gecko
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Really nice WIP ! Keep it up !
Posted: 11/6/2012 5:03 PM
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Fabian
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Couldn't spot any big improvements over the published run tbh, probably voting no.
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Posted: 11/6/2012 5:32 PM
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HappyLee
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Fabian wrote:
Couldn't spot any big improvements over the published run tbh, probably voting no.
Excuse me, what are you talking about?
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Posted: 11/6/2012 5:36 PM
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Masterjun wrote:
might as well post something here :)
Needs more xX 360 leet mlg noscopes Xx, man.
Posted: 11/6/2012 5:38 PM
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You make cool music! And what was the video footage from?
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Posted: 11/6/2012 6:06 PM
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From the WIP
Posted: 11/6/2012 8:01 PM
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CoolKirby
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HappyLee wrote:
Fabian wrote:
Couldn't spot any big improvements over the published run tbh, probably voting no.
Excuse me, what are you talking about?
He's either joking or bitter because his 96-exit run will be obsoleted by this.
Posted: 11/6/2012 8:38 PM
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Cronikeys
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Fabian wrote:
Couldn't spot any big improvements over the published run tbh, probably voting no.
Did you see Cookie Mountain? This run is not only 14 seconds faster within the first 20 or so minutes, but it also shows off very cool new ISM glitches.
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Posted: 11/6/2012 8:56 PM
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Guys, are you kidding? XD It's fucking Fabian. Of course he's kidding! This should ring a bell: "probably voting no."
Posted: 11/6/2012 9:51 PM
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I had to register just to say great work on the WIP so far. Hope you guys keep this pace and it'll be released soon!
Posted: 11/6/2012 10:39 PM
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Posted: 11/7/2012 2:26 AM
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Hmph, I understood it....somewhat.
Posted: 11/7/2012 5:18 PM
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Still watching but already amazed!
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Posted: 11/10/2012 5:22 PM
Post subject: Re: smw-96 wip
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HappyLee
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bahamete wrote:
Tomorrow I'll edit this post with level comments I'm writing right now.
I'm still waiting for the level comments, please. It's been already 4 days...
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Posted: 11/11/2012 2:00 AM
Post subject: Re: smw-96 wip
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bahamete
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HappyLee wrote:
bahamete wrote:
Tomorrow I'll edit this post with level comments I'm writing right now.
I'm still waiting for the level comments, please. It's been already 4 days...
I'm sorry, I'm really busy lately with university and the like. Seeing as I don't know when I'll finish them you can see my unfinished notes (which only compare to ISM) here. http://pastebin.com/25y4arSH
Retired smw-96, smw any%
Posted: 11/11/2012 3:49 AM
Post subject: Re: smw-96 wip
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HappyLee
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bahamete wrote:
HappyLee wrote:
bahamete wrote:
Tomorrow I'll edit this post with level comments I'm writing right now.
I'm still waiting for the level comments, please. It's been already 4 days...
I'm sorry, I'm really busy lately with university and the like. Seeing as I don't know when I'll finish them you can see my unfinished notes (which only compare to ISM) here. http://pastebin.com/25y4arSH
Thanks a lot! And keep the magic going!
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Posted: 11/25/2012 6:17 PM
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SMW TAS Comp
Posted: 11/25/2012 8:12 PM
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Masterjun
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Link to video .smv Made with Snes9x That video uses the 4 extra buttons of the SNES controller. A regular controller has 12 buttons but with 16 bits there is place for 4 extra bits, which is currently only possible in Snes9x... I think this would be possible on a console once a custom controller is created...
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Posted: 11/26/2012 2:08 AM
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HappyLee
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Masterjun wrote:
.smv Made with Snes9x That video uses the 4 extra buttons of the SNES controller. A regular controller has 12 buttons but with 16 bits there is place for 4 extra bits, which is currently only possible in Snes9x... I think this would be possible on a console once a custom controller is created...
Whatever you've done, that was amazing! How the heck did you do that?
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Posted: 11/26/2012 6:04 AM
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ais523
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Is this usable for a total-control type movie? (I'd be interested in technical details. I'm guessing that instead of using the RNG to run arbitrary code, you're using the memory addresses that hold the controller input?)
Posted: 11/26/2012 7:00 PM
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jimsfriend
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hey masterjun I don't know what happened but since you mentioned the extra buttons I'll assume they were important. with that in mind, could you manipulate the game further with input from the other three controllers? or by being Luigi?
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Posted: 11/26/2012 7:03 PM
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Masterjun
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We still have to test things, so I can't give you any answers to your questions, I'm sorry...
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Posted: 11/26/2012 7:40 PM
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Posted: 11/27/2012 1:15 PM
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caitsith2
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I disassembled the code that was present in the controller input. At present, he just seems to have temporary control of things, to be able to execute up to 8 bytes worth of instructions, per frame. 
STZ $4201;	WAI;	NOP;	NOP;	BRA #$FA
REP #$20;	SEI;	WAI;	NOP;	NOP;	BRA #$FA
LDA #$1815;	WAI;	NOP;	NOP;	BRA #$FA
STA $0EFA;	WAI;	NOP;	NOP;	BRA #$FA
LDA #$FC15;	WAI;	NOP;	NOP;	BRA #$FA
STA $0EFC;	WAI;	NOP;	NOP;	BRA #$FA
LDA #$1B0C;	WAI;	NOP;	NOP;	BRA #$FA
STA $0EFE;	WAI;	NOP;	NOP;	BRA #$FA
LDA #$0D0E;	WAI;	NOP;	NOP;	BRA #$FA
STA $0F00;	WAI;	NOP;	NOP;	BRA #$FA
LDA #$1D12;	WAI;	NOP;	NOP;	BRA #$FA
STA $0F02;	WAI;	NOP;	NOP;	BRA #$FA
LDA #$FC1C;	WAI;	NOP;	NOP;	BRA #$FA
STA $0F04;	WAI;	NOP;	NOP;	BRA #$FA
LDA #$1815;	WAI;	NOP;	NOP;	BRA #$FA
STA $0F08;	WAI;	NOP;	NOP;	BRA #$FA
LDA #$FC15;	WAI;	NOP;	NOP;	BRA #$FA
STA $0F0A;	WAI;	NOP;	NOP;	BRA #$FA
LDA #$1B0C;	WAI;	NOP;	NOP;	BRA #$FA
STA $0F0C;	WAI;	NOP;	NOP;	BRA #$FA
LDA #$0D0E;	WAI;	NOP;	NOP;	BRA #$FA
STA $0F0E;	WAI;	NOP;	NOP;	BRA #$FA
LDA #$1D12;	WAI;	NOP;	NOP;	BRA #$FA
STA $0F10;	WAI;	NOP;	NOP;	BRA #$FA
LDA #$FC1C;	WAI;	NOP;	NOP;	BRA #$FA
STA $0F12;	WAI;	NOP;	NOP;	BRA #$FA
LDA #$1815;	WAI;	NOP;	NOP;	BRA #$FA
STA $0F15;	WAI;	NOP;	NOP;	BRA #$FA
LDA #$FC15;	WAI;	NOP;	NOP;	BRA #$FA
STA $0F17;	WAI;	NOP;	NOP;	BRA #$FA
LDA #$1B0C;	WAI;	NOP;	NOP;	BRA #$FA
STA $0F19;	WAI;	NOP;	NOP;	BRA #$FA
LDA #$0D0E;	WAI;	NOP;	NOP;	BRA #$FA
STA $0F1B;	WAI;	NOP;	NOP;	BRA #$FA
LDA #$1D12;	WAI;	NOP;	NOP;	BRA #$FA
STA $0F1D;	WAI;	NOP;	NOP;	BRA #$FA
LDA #$FC1C;	WAI;	NOP;	NOP;	BRA #$FA
STA $0F1F;	WAI;	NOP;	NOP;	BRA #$FA
LDA #$1815;	WAI;	NOP;	NOP;	BRA #$FA
STA $0F23;	WAI;	NOP;	NOP;	BRA #$FA
LDA #$FC15;	WAI;	NOP;	NOP;	BRA #$FA
STA $0F25;	WAI;	NOP;	NOP;	BRA #$FA
LDA #$1B0C;	WAI;	NOP;	NOP;	BRA #$FA
STA $0F27;	WAI;	NOP;	NOP;	BRA #$FA
LDA #$0D0E;	WAI;	NOP;	NOP;	BRA #$FA
STA $0F29;	WAI;	NOP;	NOP;	BRA #$FA
LDA #$1D12;	WAI;	NOP;	NOP;	BRA #$FA
STA $0F2B;	WAI;	NOP;	NOP;	BRA #$FA
LDA #$FC1C;	WAI;	NOP;	NOP;	BRA #$FA
STA $0F2D;	WAI;	NOP;	NOP;	BRA #$FA
LDA #$FCFC;	WAI;	NOP;	NOP;	BRA #$FA
STA $0F13;	WAI;	NOP;	NOP;	BRA #$FA
LDA #$FCFC;	WAI;	NOP;	NOP;	BRA #$FA
STA $0F2E;	WAI;	NOP;	NOP;	BRA #$FA
SEP #$20;	NOP;	WAI;	NOP;	NOP;	BRA #$FA
LDA #$08;	NOP;	WAI;	NOP;	NOP;	BRA #$FA
STA $13C6;	WAI;	NOP;	NOP;	BRA #$FA
LDA #$18;	NOP;	WAI;	NOP;	NOP;	BRA #$FA
STA $0001;	WAI;	NOP;	NOP;	BRA #$FA
RTS;	NOP;	NOP;	WAI;	NOP;	NOP;	BRA #$FA
The code obviously has to reside in ram somewhere, and is updated each and every frame. This of course has the possibility of writing a bootloader of some sort, smash the stack, and execute the bootloader, which could be made to write 8 bytes of code/data per frame, or if done more efficiently, possibly up to 16 per frame, using 2 multitaps of input. As it is, in this case, he is just using the control to change the rules of the game in place, by writing a couple of bytes that tells the game engine that game has just been beaten, then returns control to the game.
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