I added a ton of notes in one of my previous posts and I figured out a good route. And I don't have to forfeit part of my WIP if I accept a ~1 second loss, which is negligible. I should be making good progress soon
EDIT:
MLSS Luascriptv5
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2015 EDIT:
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jlun2 wrote:
hic2482w wrote:
So excited to see this coming! :D
Sorry, but:
MUGG wrote:
I will be leaving the site forever. Good bye.
Yeah, but that doesn't mean he isn't working on the TAS and isn't going to put it on youtube.
IronSlayer wrote:
Your counterargument would be like me saying that the Earth is round and then you telling me that I need to show it's flat so I can "prove us all wrong".
Yeah, but that doesn't mean he isn't working on the TAS and isn't going to put it on youtube.
Of course! This quote suddenly makes alot more sense!
MUGG wrote:
I want to be honest and I hope I don't come across as a greedy bastard with this, but the reason why I held off with submitting this run is because I am interested in the ad revenue that I can make from my uploaded videos (which I put much effort into, after all). And submitting a TAS means that basicly everyone can reupload the TAS on their channel if they wanted, essentially taking away viewers and possibly leaving my video in the shade while the video by one of the encoders may become much more popular.
I think making money off of being a TASer is impossible, unless you go the HelixSnake route and frequently make crazy glitch videos of heavily physics based games. Full TAS runs take too long to make
I think making money off of being a TASer is impossible, unless you go the HelixSnake route and frequently make crazy glitch videos of heavily physics based games. Full TAS runs take too long to make
Then why were some people concerned about this?
Postslikethese imply people make something out of TASing instead of simply views + respect.
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jlun2 wrote:
Patashu wrote:
I think making money off of being a TASer is impossible, unless you go the HelixSnake route and frequently make crazy glitch videos of heavily physics based games. Full TAS runs take too long to make
Then why were some people concerned about this?
Postslikethese imply people make something out of TASing instead of simply views + respect.
I actually have a partnership and all of my videos that have decent amount of views are TASes. This is one reason why I'm going to wait quite a while after my TWW TAS is finished before submitting, because I know every little encoder is going to want to make their own encode for their channel, and then TASVideosChannel is just going to upload it and get all the views. TBH, it's a load of bullshit. But I suppose they won't make an exception for anyone, for the sake of "organization".
IronSlayer wrote:
Your counterargument would be like me saying that the Earth is round and then you telling me that I need to show it's flat so I can "prove us all wrong".
I actually have a partnership and all of my videos that have decent amount of views are TASes. This is one reason why I'm going to wait quite a while after my TWW TAS is finished before submitting, because I know every little encoder is going to want to make their own encode for their channel, and then TASVideosChannel is just going to upload it and get all the views. TBH, it's a load of bullshit. But I suppose they won't make an exception for anyone, for the sake of "organization".
Thanks for proving my point. Excuse me as I quit school and make millions from TASing.
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jlun2 wrote:
Thanks for proving my point. Excuse me as I quit school and make millions from TASing.
I wish I could make millions from TASing. But it is possible to make decent amount of money.
IronSlayer wrote:
Your counterargument would be like me saying that the Earth is round and then you telling me that I need to show it's flat so I can "prove us all wrong".
The TAS is finished. Pirohiko and I are working on a visualisation to display the brothers' stats, their abilities and current selected action icon IDs, the # of uses of bros attacks (until they learn Advanced versions), Enemy stats, items, coins, timer, along with the TAS. The video is going to be published in Youtube and nicovideo.
At a much later time, I consider submitting it here but that is for me to decide yet.
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MUGG wrote:
The TAS is finished. Pirohiko and I are working on a visualisation to display the brothers' stats, their abilities and current selected action icon IDs, the # of uses of bros attacks (until they learn Advanced versions), Enemy stats, items, coins, timer, along with the TAS. The video is going to be published in Youtube and nicovideo.
At a much later time, I consider submitting it here but that is for me to decide yet.
Wait you finished it!
I'm just going to ask 2 questions you can answer both or just say flat out no.
1. What was the time?
2. How many rerecords did you guys do? That must-have been a lot of work.
WebNations/Sabih wrote:
+fsvgm777 never censoring anything.
Disables Comments and Ratings for the YouTube account.Something better for yourself and also others.
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I know the TAS is already finished, but this might be useful for speedruns in the future; if you only land the first action command of Thunder Bros., the DEF-Down status reduces enemy DEF to 0 rather than 1/3 of its value.
Video of this in action:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8dQyUfauG-4
Hello.
I cannot check my PMs currently but are you the same person who contacted me about this very thing?
The TAS never gets Thunderhand. Fights take a few minutes but getting the Hand probably takes 2 to 3 minutes. Hardly imaginable that it saves time..
E/ themushroomkingdom says Hammerbro has 130 DEF and Boo has 1000 DEF. In your video it looks like you assume both had the same DEF. Someone should look into the memory to see how the enemies' DEF behaves during battle.
E// (I should have watched the whole video lol.)
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Yes, I'm the same person, and I didn't know you could skip Thunderhand entirely. For an all-bosses run (I don't know how you'd define "100%" in M&L), it might speed things up a bit, though.
As for how it affects enemy stats, here are the exact multipliers for all button combos:
B - 0x00 (0%) DEF single
BB - 0x1E (12%) DEF all
BBB - 0x55 (33%) DEF all
Adv BA - 0x00 (0%) DEF single
Adv BAA - 0x46 (27%) DEF single
Adv BAAB - 0x48 (28%) POW single
NOTE: As far as I know, if an enemy is "immune" to attacks, like Glurp to Jump, Troopeas to Hammers, Jojora to anything, etc., this won't affect the damage they take. A way to test the difference is to use Mush Badges; if you only do 1 damage with a bunch of Mushrooms, then the enemy's immune to a certain attack.
I won't get into the minefield of a 100% definition(yet); but I do hope a run along those lines can be done. The any% becoming a demo for a few major skips was a huge disappointment for me, (as interesting as those glitches are) as, for lack of a better term, it looked like the any% was going to able show the whole game off.
I won't get into the minefield of a 100% definition(yet); but I do hope a run along those lines can be done. The any% becoming a demo for a few major skips was a huge disappointment for me, (as interesting as those glitches are) as, for lack of a better term, it looked like the any% was going to able show the whole game off.
But if it doesn't do those glitches, it will be judged as a playaround, since it doesn't complete the game at the fastest time. I don't think the run would be interesting enough to skip the glitches though.
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Technically, an all-equips run is impossible; you can only get either Piranha Swing or Piranha Suit from the Piranha Bean boss. That and it wouldn't be very interesting, due to you having to get Swing Bros. Advance and fight a bunch of random enemies to get all of the equipment (and if including the pins, getting 35+ of all beans). I think no-sequence-breaking (or at least all bosses fought in proper order) should be about the maximum requirement.
All that said, I would eventually like to see a "more completed" run at some point in the future.
"No sequence breaking" is a legit category, much as it's causing me problems to get adelikat to admit its existence. There's already the occasional run in that category on the site already.
No sequence breaking is good if you define it rigorously - do you have to see all plot advancing cutscenes and fight all plot advancing bosses in order, for example? Or do you have to as well solve every puzzle that a casual playthrough would need to to advance? Etc
Yeah, it works much better on games that have numerical restrictions on progression (like the star doors in Super Mario 64). It may be possible to define an uncontroversial definition even for other games too, though.
Technically, an all-equips run is impossible; you can only get either Piranha Swing or Piranha Suit from the Piranha Bean boss. That and it wouldn't be very interesting, due to you having to get Swing Bros. Advance and fight a bunch of random enemies to get all of the equipment (and if including the pins, getting 35+ of all beans). I think no-sequence-breaking (or at least all bosses fought in proper order) should be about the maximum requirement.
All that said, I would eventually like to see a "more completed" run at some point in the future.
Could you use swing bros advance to steal Piranha Swing, then game over and fight again for Piranha suit?
