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Goddamn Spike. Posting feedback is not a crime. I know you dislike oblvionwalker, but there is no reason to get up his arse any time he makes a post.
If you're apparently so annoyed by him, then just stop interacting with him or going after him. Please.
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Yeah, the ingame counter doesn't count during lag frames. Lag constitutes mostly room transitions (a handful of frames every time the screen fades in/out), and anime cutscenes, which play at 24FPS and thereby slow the game timer down to 2/5th for the cutscene's duration.
Other than that, it runs constantly.
EDIT: Also, going to announce here that me and Rolanmen1 are starting on a new Mega Man ZX TAS. The old run could use some more polish, and make use of some improvements like the small route change to B-3 and using Vent instead of Aile (to save on dialogue/cutscene time).
http://www.youtube.com/Noxxa
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<Masterjun> I'm just a guy arranging bits in a sequence which could potentially amuse other people looking at these bits
<adelikat> In Oregon Trail, I sacrificed my own family to save time. In Star trek, I killed helpless comrades in escape pods to save time. Here, I kill my allies to save time. I think I need help.
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Wiki: Vault wrote:
Game Choice
Unlicensed and homebrew games are eligible but may be judged on a game-by-game basis based on their notability.
http://www.youtube.com/Noxxa
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<Masterjun> I'm just a guy arranging bits in a sequence which could potentially amuse other people looking at these bits
<adelikat> In Oregon Trail, I sacrificed my own family to save time. In Star trek, I killed helpless comrades in escape pods to save time. Here, I kill my allies to save time. I think I need help.
That doesn't address how to compare with different runs (in particular, real-time runs), though.
http://www.youtube.com/Noxxa
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<Masterjun> I'm just a guy arranging bits in a sequence which could potentially amuse other people looking at these bits
<adelikat> In Oregon Trail, I sacrificed my own family to save time. In Star trek, I killed helpless comrades in escape pods to save time. Here, I kill my allies to save time. I think I need help.
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thatguy wrote:
The TAS's length is judged by the end input.
This is false. The length of a TAS, for comparison purposes, is judged by the time required to get the game in a "completed" state.
For example, Super Mario Bros. is judged by the time it takes to hit the axe. If a TAS takes longer to hit the axe, even if it has a shorter input time, a judge will reject it.
http://www.youtube.com/Noxxa
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<Masterjun> I'm just a guy arranging bits in a sequence which could potentially amuse other people looking at these bits
<adelikat> In Oregon Trail, I sacrificed my own family to save time. In Star trek, I killed helpless comrades in escape pods to save time. Here, I kill my allies to save time. I think I need help.
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I tested out a handful of systems. Results below:
64-bit Windows 7, Intel Core i7 3610QM @ 2.3GHz, Intel HD Graphics 4000
1.6.1 1.7.0-beta QuickNES
NES:
Akumajou Densetsu (Castlevania 3JP) 131fps 122fps 938fps
Super Mario Bros. 146fps 141fps 942fps
Mega Man 6 126fps 123fps 925fps
SNES:
Super Mario All-Stars 106fps 97fps
(performance core) 144fps 138fps
Earthbound 109fps 102fps
(performance core) 156fps 135fps
Mega Man X2 90fps 86fps
A2600:
Kangaroo 176fps 165fps
Dodge 'em 183fps 172fps
Dethstar 172fps 166fps
DMG:
Rockman World 1996fps 1512fps
Minesweeper 2039fps 1521fps
X 1641fps 1233fps
GBC:
E Mo Dao 1560fps 1293fps
Mega Man Xtreme 2 1698fps 1338fps
Project S-11 1932fps 1491fps
SGB:
Pokémon Red 53fps 51fps
EDIT: Whoops, turned out I had rewind on on the 1.7.0 beta. Will retime later. EDIT2: Timings fixed.
(Also, a note from adelikat that people should make sure to turn off rewind for testing)
http://www.youtube.com/Noxxa
<dwangoAC> This is a TAS (...). Not suitable for all audiences. May cause undesirable side-effects. May contain emulator abuse. Emulator may be abusive. This product contains glitches known to the state of California to cause egg defects.
<Masterjun> I'm just a guy arranging bits in a sequence which could potentially amuse other people looking at these bits
<adelikat> In Oregon Trail, I sacrificed my own family to save time. In Star trek, I killed helpless comrades in escape pods to save time. Here, I kill my allies to save time. I think I need help.
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Hmm, good point actually. I'm not sure if we tested that at the time, or if it's just an oversight on our part. It may well be the latter, as looking at the maps, it does seem faster.
http://www.youtube.com/Noxxa
<dwangoAC> This is a TAS (...). Not suitable for all audiences. May cause undesirable side-effects. May contain emulator abuse. Emulator may be abusive. This product contains glitches known to the state of California to cause egg defects.
<Masterjun> I'm just a guy arranging bits in a sequence which could potentially amuse other people looking at these bits
<adelikat> In Oregon Trail, I sacrificed my own family to save time. In Star trek, I killed helpless comrades in escape pods to save time. Here, I kill my allies to save time. I think I need help.
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Warp wrote:
Mothrayas wrote:
Should it be noted that "maximum score" is not a vaultable goal?
Does this game even have some kind of ending? Is it at all eligible for vault?
I'm not sure. I was intending to test out how the game works in that respect. Either way, if it has a way of ending/losing/resetting, then this run also fails to properly end the game, much like how Virtual Pinball was rejected.
Oh, and also, the link to the glitch finder leads to a video that reaches maximum score over 15 minutes faster than this run does. (7:02 vs 22:53 is quite a big difference.) How to end movie input is up to the author of course, but either way, this run is way behind realtime records.
EDIT: The same run also dies and the game resets shortly after reaching maximum score.
http://www.youtube.com/Noxxa
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<Masterjun> I'm just a guy arranging bits in a sequence which could potentially amuse other people looking at these bits
<adelikat> In Oregon Trail, I sacrificed my own family to save time. In Star trek, I killed helpless comrades in escape pods to save time. Here, I kill my allies to save time. I think I need help.
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Should it be noted that "maximum score" is not a vaultable goal?
http://www.youtube.com/Noxxa
<dwangoAC> This is a TAS (...). Not suitable for all audiences. May cause undesirable side-effects. May contain emulator abuse. Emulator may be abusive. This product contains glitches known to the state of California to cause egg defects.
<Masterjun> I'm just a guy arranging bits in a sequence which could potentially amuse other people looking at these bits
<adelikat> In Oregon Trail, I sacrificed my own family to save time. In Star trek, I killed helpless comrades in escape pods to save time. Here, I kill my allies to save time. I think I need help.
http://www.youtube.com/Noxxa
<dwangoAC> This is a TAS (...). Not suitable for all audiences. May cause undesirable side-effects. May contain emulator abuse. Emulator may be abusive. This product contains glitches known to the state of California to cause egg defects.
<Masterjun> I'm just a guy arranging bits in a sequence which could potentially amuse other people looking at these bits
<adelikat> In Oregon Trail, I sacrificed my own family to save time. In Star trek, I killed helpless comrades in escape pods to save time. Here, I kill my allies to save time. I think I need help.
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grassini wrote:
wasn't there a TAS of the first game in the gruefood either?
No. This is the only run of the entire series so far.
http://www.youtube.com/Noxxa
<dwangoAC> This is a TAS (...). Not suitable for all audiences. May cause undesirable side-effects. May contain emulator abuse. Emulator may be abusive. This product contains glitches known to the state of California to cause egg defects.
<Masterjun> I'm just a guy arranging bits in a sequence which could potentially amuse other people looking at these bits
<adelikat> In Oregon Trail, I sacrificed my own family to save time. In Star trek, I killed helpless comrades in escape pods to save time. Here, I kill my allies to save time. I think I need help.
http://www.youtube.com/Noxxa
<dwangoAC> This is a TAS (...). Not suitable for all audiences. May cause undesirable side-effects. May contain emulator abuse. Emulator may be abusive. This product contains glitches known to the state of California to cause egg defects.
<Masterjun> I'm just a guy arranging bits in a sequence which could potentially amuse other people looking at these bits
<adelikat> In Oregon Trail, I sacrificed my own family to save time. In Star trek, I killed helpless comrades in escape pods to save time. Here, I kill my allies to save time. I think I need help.
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That was quite short indeed.
Other than that, a typical Masterjun run. Yes vote.
http://www.youtube.com/Noxxa
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<Masterjun> I'm just a guy arranging bits in a sequence which could potentially amuse other people looking at these bits
<adelikat> In Oregon Trail, I sacrificed my own family to save time. In Star trek, I killed helpless comrades in escape pods to save time. Here, I kill my allies to save time. I think I need help.
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Yeah, now that feos mentions it, the whole "Recommended for newcomers" thing seems kinda redundant, and the Newcomer Corner is not really as visible as it should be. We should just ax the icon and category altogether.
http://www.youtube.com/Noxxa
<dwangoAC> This is a TAS (...). Not suitable for all audiences. May cause undesirable side-effects. May contain emulator abuse. Emulator may be abusive. This product contains glitches known to the state of California to cause egg defects.
<Masterjun> I'm just a guy arranging bits in a sequence which could potentially amuse other people looking at these bits
<adelikat> In Oregon Trail, I sacrificed my own family to save time. In Star trek, I killed helpless comrades in escape pods to save time. Here, I kill my allies to save time. I think I need help.
http://www.youtube.com/Noxxa
<dwangoAC> This is a TAS (...). Not suitable for all audiences. May cause undesirable side-effects. May contain emulator abuse. Emulator may be abusive. This product contains glitches known to the state of California to cause egg defects.
<Masterjun> I'm just a guy arranging bits in a sequence which could potentially amuse other people looking at these bits
<adelikat> In Oregon Trail, I sacrificed my own family to save time. In Star trek, I killed helpless comrades in escape pods to save time. Here, I kill my allies to save time. I think I need help.
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[00:05:06] <Zeupar> that's why I have been saying for a while that the best thing to do about it is make a poll
Making a poll because Zeupar wants me to. We think the Recommended icon needs replacing, as it is currently animated and quite distracting. Zeupar wants to use the SMW version in order to follow a consistent theme with the SMW Star and Moon icons. I disagree because it is color-wise and detail-wise stylistically different from those (and other) icons.
Options:
Current:
Current still #1:
Current still #2:
Zeupar:
Mothrayas #1:
Mothrayas #2: (my personal pick)
Something else (post your own suggestions here)
http://www.youtube.com/Noxxa
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<Masterjun> I'm just a guy arranging bits in a sequence which could potentially amuse other people looking at these bits
<adelikat> In Oregon Trail, I sacrificed my own family to save time. In Star trek, I killed helpless comrades in escape pods to save time. Here, I kill my allies to save time. I think I need help.
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Nach wrote:
Radiant wrote:
Masterjun wrote:
Polls are fun. -Mothrayas
I suggest we hold a poll to determine whether polls are fun :P
Polls are fun.
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<Masterjun> I'm just a guy arranging bits in a sequence which could potentially amuse other people looking at these bits
<adelikat> In Oregon Trail, I sacrificed my own family to save time. In Star trek, I killed helpless comrades in escape pods to save time. Here, I kill my allies to save time. I think I need help.
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Warp wrote:
Why give special status to SMW?
SMW's sprite is already used for the Moons icon (), and the star graphic already looks vaguely similar to SMW's star. Why not go all the way with that as well?
http://www.youtube.com/Noxxa
<dwangoAC> This is a TAS (...). Not suitable for all audiences. May cause undesirable side-effects. May contain emulator abuse. Emulator may be abusive. This product contains glitches known to the state of California to cause egg defects.
<Masterjun> I'm just a guy arranging bits in a sequence which could potentially amuse other people looking at these bits
<adelikat> In Oregon Trail, I sacrificed my own family to save time. In Star trek, I killed helpless comrades in escape pods to save time. Here, I kill my allies to save time. I think I need help.
Hate to be that guy, but shouldn't this run be posted in the "Speedrun Competitions" thread?
A single run is not a speedrun competition, nor is the run in question created or planned within this site. So no.
http://www.youtube.com/Noxxa
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<Masterjun> I'm just a guy arranging bits in a sequence which could potentially amuse other people looking at these bits
<adelikat> In Oregon Trail, I sacrificed my own family to save time. In Star trek, I killed helpless comrades in escape pods to save time. Here, I kill my allies to save time. I think I need help.
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Obviously it's only a question if we
keep the one we already have or
use the beautiful star that will probably win because
the original SMW sprite or
the smiling one will never win.
(Poll clarification because I know that otherwise, some people out there will fail to get it such as scrimpy)
http://www.youtube.com/Noxxa
<dwangoAC> This is a TAS (...). Not suitable for all audiences. May cause undesirable side-effects. May contain emulator abuse. Emulator may be abusive. This product contains glitches known to the state of California to cause egg defects.
<Masterjun> I'm just a guy arranging bits in a sequence which could potentially amuse other people looking at these bits
<adelikat> In Oregon Trail, I sacrificed my own family to save time. In Star trek, I killed helpless comrades in escape pods to save time. Here, I kill my allies to save time. I think I need help.
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Done so now. (I have sleep times too, y'know)
scahfy wrote:
I calculated the time in as Math.round(3215 * 100 / 60) / 100 = 53.58. Now that you mention it, it looks like the time is 1.5 seconds off, however. Fixed.
The exact framerate of Atari 2600 is 59.9227510135505. That number is used for timing by the site, instead of simply 60. Calculating with that number leads to a time of 00:53.65.
http://www.youtube.com/Noxxa
<dwangoAC> This is a TAS (...). Not suitable for all audiences. May cause undesirable side-effects. May contain emulator abuse. Emulator may be abusive. This product contains glitches known to the state of California to cause egg defects.
<Masterjun> I'm just a guy arranging bits in a sequence which could potentially amuse other people looking at these bits
<adelikat> In Oregon Trail, I sacrificed my own family to save time. In Star trek, I killed helpless comrades in escape pods to save time. Here, I kill my allies to save time. I think I need help.
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Spikestuff wrote:
Fog wrote:
It does not
If that's the case.
No vote.
Edit: Just got told there are 3 difficulties not 2.
So basically this is the easiest difficulty TAS.
I don't know if I should request my vote to be Meh now... but considering the low re-record count, I assume there is room for improvement.
Keeping it to a No vote.
http://www.youtube.com/Noxxa
<dwangoAC> This is a TAS (...). Not suitable for all audiences. May cause undesirable side-effects. May contain emulator abuse. Emulator may be abusive. This product contains glitches known to the state of California to cause egg defects.
<Masterjun> I'm just a guy arranging bits in a sequence which could potentially amuse other people looking at these bits
<adelikat> In Oregon Trail, I sacrificed my own family to save time. In Star trek, I killed helpless comrades in escape pods to save time. Here, I kill my allies to save time. I think I need help.
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AngerFist, we have a ratio of stars to maintain. (I think it's supposed to be that the amount of Stars should be roughly 10% of the amount of Moons). If we far exceed that ratio, then it cheapens the value of the stars. What's the value of a star if we just hand them out at everything we like? That is why we are conservative with with handing out stars, and remove some in order to add some. For the star tier we want just the best runs, not the best and second best runs.
Keeping the exclusivity of stars in mind, we generally do not want the starred runs to overlap - we want the collection of starred runs to be as diverse as possible. If out of ~70 stars we have a dozen Mega Man runs, with most of them quite similar in some ways, then it decreases the diversity of the star list and can make it more boring to viewers, especially if they don't even like Mega Man. So we have to make sure not to overexpose any one franchise in the star tier.
For the record, some statistics: As of right now, we have 771 moons and 74 stars. Of those 74 stars, we have 8 Mega Man runs: MM1, MM2, MM5, MM8, MMX4 Zero, MM&B 100CDs, MMX1&X2&X3 300% and MMX2.
http://www.youtube.com/Noxxa
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<Masterjun> I'm just a guy arranging bits in a sequence which could potentially amuse other people looking at these bits
<adelikat> In Oregon Trail, I sacrificed my own family to save time. In Star trek, I killed helpless comrades in escape pods to save time. Here, I kill my allies to save time. I think I need help.
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Guys, could you bring your points over to this topic? This submission discussion topic is already derailed enough as it is.
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<dwangoAC> This is a TAS (...). Not suitable for all audiences. May cause undesirable side-effects. May contain emulator abuse. Emulator may be abusive. This product contains glitches known to the state of California to cause egg defects.
<Masterjun> I'm just a guy arranging bits in a sequence which could potentially amuse other people looking at these bits
<adelikat> In Oregon Trail, I sacrificed my own family to save time. In Star trek, I killed helpless comrades in escape pods to save time. Here, I kill my allies to save time. I think I need help.
http://www.youtube.com/Noxxa
<dwangoAC> This is a TAS (...). Not suitable for all audiences. May cause undesirable side-effects. May contain emulator abuse. Emulator may be abusive. This product contains glitches known to the state of California to cause egg defects.
<Masterjun> I'm just a guy arranging bits in a sequence which could potentially amuse other people looking at these bits
<adelikat> In Oregon Trail, I sacrificed my own family to save time. In Star trek, I killed helpless comrades in escape pods to save time. Here, I kill my allies to save time. I think I need help.
(my personal pick)
), and the star graphic already looks vaguely similar to SMW's star. Why not go all the way with that as well?
keep the one we already have or
use the beautiful star that will probably win because
the original SMW sprite or
the smiling one will never win.
(Poll clarification because I know that otherwise, some people out there will fail to get it such as scrimpy)