Post subject: NES TAS of 2018 - Super Mario Bros. 3 by Lord Tom,Maru,Tompa
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Several classic games reappeared during 2018 (this was a great year), and between TASes: This run [3812] NES Super Mario Bros. 3 "warps" by Lord_Tom, Maru & Tompa in 10:24.94 was a surprise for most of us, including me. The highlight for me is that 8-Fortress!
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[3789] NES Donkey Kong, DK Jr., DK 3 & DK Jr. Math by Cyorter in 01:18.39 This was pretty incredible as I saw it, given the variety in all 4 games being played at once. [3665] NES Super Mario Bros. "warpless" by MrWint in 18:37.46 Even upon its obsoletion, I still enjoyed the unique approach and pure-speed style of this TAS more than any other one I've seen for the category
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[3789] NES Donkey Kong, DK Jr., DK 3 & DK Jr. Math by Cyorter in 01:18.39 This was pretty incredible as I saw it, given the variety in all 4 games being played at once.
I think there was a rule last year where multi-game TASes are not elegible for the award.
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[3728] NES Super Mario Bros. "warpless" by HappyLee & Mars608 in 18:36.78 Nominating our own run for literally being faster (and better in many ways) than the other nomination. Edit: [MOD EDIT: Uncalled for message removed -Mothrayas]
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HappyLee wrote:
[3728] NES Super Mario Bros. "warpless" by HappyLee & Mars608 in 18:36.78 Nominating our own run for literally being faster (and better in many ways) than the other nomination.
You cant nominate your own tas
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Nominating the obsoleted: [3665] NES Super Mario Bros. "warpless" by MrWint in 18:37.46 As it's more entertaining as well it feels as if it doesn't skip a beat compared to the current. And on the topic of entertaining but current: Bloody amazing for what can be shaved off: [3812] NES Super Mario Bros. 3 "warps" by Lord_Tom, Maru & Tompa in 10:24.94 A minute and it's still insane: [3613] NES Bionic Commando by nEilfox, Alyosha & Challenger in 12:25.62 And some good well fun with a sub-optimal character: [3640] NES Super Mario Bros. 2 "warps, princess only" by mtvf1 & chatterbox in 08:20.83
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EZGames69 wrote:
HappyLee wrote:
[3728] NES Super Mario Bros. "warpless" by HappyLee & Mars608 in 18:36.78 Nominating our own run for literally being faster (and better in many ways) than the other nomination.
You cant nominate your own tas
But I can. I nominate [3728] NES Super Mario Bros. "warpless" by HappyLee & Mars608 in 18:36.78 for being a really entertaining run throughout, and in my opinion, the most entertaining version of this branch that I've seen.
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TheProJamer wrote:
[3789] NES Donkey Kong, DK Jr., DK 3 & DK Jr. Math by Cyorter in 01:18.39 This was pretty incredible as I saw it, given the variety in all 4 games being played at once.
I think there was a rule last year where multi-game TASes are not elegible for the award.
That was for the First Edition award, where the base game(s) already had TASes of their own. There is no reason to disqualify a multi-game TAS from NES TAS or other TAS categories they qualify for. In fact, a few of them have won awards in the past.
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Nach wrote:
EZGames69 wrote:
HappyLee wrote:
[3728] NES Super Mario Bros. "warpless" by HappyLee & Mars608 in 18:36.78 Nominating our own run for literally being faster (and better in many ways) than the other nomination.
You cant nominate your own tas
But I can. I nominate [3728] NES Super Mario Bros. "warpless" by HappyLee & Mars608 in 18:36.78 for being a really entertaining run throughout, and in my opinion, the most entertaining version of this branch that I've seen.
I second this nomination. Even if one, for some reason, found the obsolete TAS more entertaining than the new one, this shouldn't be the only factor to be considered. Saving 2 frame rules in a game as contested as SMB is by itself a big enough of a technical achievement that should make the new run the SMB nomination.
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[3665] NES Super Mario Bros. "warpless" by MrWint in 18:37.46 It's more entertaining and executed well compared to Lee's. Alongside [3789] NES Donkey Kong, DK Jr., DK 3 & DK Jr. Math by Cyorter in 01:18.39 due to how incredible the 4 games were done in a row. and [3812] NES Super Mario Bros. 3 "warps" by Lord_Tom, Maru & Tompa in 10:24.94 just because it's an extremely well done TAS worth a nomination aswell. Very impressive and entertaining.
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I am not accepting debate here on whether one movie is more worthy of a nomination than another movie. Both movies have been nominated already, you can vote for the movie you prefer when the voting phase starts. This is not the place for another argument between these movies. Further posts of that nature will be moved out or deleted.
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Nomination rules: If you think someone has made a nomination which is truly undeserving, please point it out so there can be a proper discussion.
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That's a fair point, it's in the rules, But you did conveniently leave out the last part:
If you think someone has made a nomination which is truly undeserving, please point it out so there can be a proper discussion. However, arguments which are a matter of opinion and personal taste are uncalled for.
If you think the movie is undeserving, that's fair. But let's keep the tone positive here. Bad: "How can anyone not like my movie better!!" Better: "I think x was nominated in bad taste, the current movie is faster and has a lot of hard work put into maximizing entertainment" Best: Just let it go, they are both nominated, and let people choose. Remember you can't please everyone, and the majority of people like the published movie more than the obsoleted one. Your hard work has been appreciated.
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adelikat wrote:
But you did conveniently leave out the last part:
I did. Even though my subjective opinion as a SMB TASer doesn't count, I did say "Objectively speaking, our TAS follows every guidelines on how to be entertaining." in my deleted post. By the way, purely saying that "MrWint's movie is more entertaining" is also a matter of opinion. I'd like to hear those people saying exactly where and what MrWint did that makes his movie more entertaining, so there can be a proper discussion as the rule says.
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If you think the movie is undeserving, that's fair. But let's keep the tone positive here.
Sorry about the tone. I guess I'm just bad at English expression. I'm not saying MrWint's run is bad, but my point is that I certainly don't feel that our hard work has been appreciated. It's so not appreciated that more people actually nominated an obsoleted TAS than the current TAS (I wonder if that's new).
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I don't think we will get anywhere discussing which movie is more entertaining, as people can always claim they have their "minimalist entertainment perspective" which everyone suddenly adopted this year. I do think whoever we can establish that the fact 2 frame rules were saved is a HUGE and objective factor that must be thoroughly considered. We are not simply voting for the most entertaining NES run of 2018, and each frame rule saved is a piece of history in SMB TASing.
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Mothrayas wrote:
EZGames69 wrote:
TheProJamer wrote:
[3789] NES Donkey Kong, DK Jr., DK 3 & DK Jr. Math by Cyorter in 01:18.39 This was pretty incredible as I saw it, given the variety in all 4 games being played at once.
I think there was a rule last year where multi-game TASes are not elegible for the award.
That was for the First Edition award, where the base game(s) already had TASes of their own. There is no reason to disqualify a multi-game TAS from NES TAS or other TAS categories they qualify for. In fact, a few of them have won awards in the past.
Ah I see now. Then I’m also for nominating that tas too.
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