Genisto, I used to have respect for you as a TASer. You put out some great runs back in the day. But I suggest you retire again...go back into hibernation. This piece of shit was awful. While there were indeed some interesting qwirks, the game was far from entertaining or fast. This would be a good video for YouTube, nothing more. Considering your submissions for this and SMB3 (from All-Stars) is the same, I'm not even gonna bother wasting my time watching that. This run was disgusting. I've lost all respect for you. BIG FAT VOTE FOR NO. (P.S. I have no problem with runs that don't aim for speed [ala River City Ransom run] but I would expect it to be very very entertaining. This run is not the case.)

Congratulations, you're an asshole.

Congratulations on making an unconstrutive post EDIT: Oh yeah, RRRRRRRRRIIIIIIIIIIIDDDDDDDDDDGGGGEEEEEEE RRRRRRRAAAAAACCCCCCEEEERRRRRR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I think the only new thing that I didn't know about was the death glitch, I was pretty surprised by that one actually. But most of the rest have I done on console and isn't really that special when you are used to the Demo World runs for example... And no invis Yoshis :(.

Genisto, I used to have respect for you as a TASer. You put out some great runs back in the day. But I suggest you retire again...go back into hibernation. This piece of shit was awful. While there were indeed some interesting qwirks, the game was far from entertaining or fast. This would be a good video for YouTube, nothing more. Considering your submissions for this and SMB3 (from All-Stars) is the same, I'm not even gonna bother wasting my time watching that. This run was disgusting. I've lost all respect for you. BIG FAT VOTE FOR NO. (P.S. I have no problem with runs that don't aim for speed [ala River City Ransom run] but I would expect it to be very very entertaining. This run is not the case.)

Congratulations, you're an asshole.

Congratulations on making an unconstrutive post

Oh my, I must apologize, I should eloborate on my comment. Calling someone out and telling them to quit TASing altogether simply because they did not enjoy the run is quite the mature thing to do I must say. I watched the run and found it entertaining albeit rather slow but not enough to warrant throwing out personal insults towards the author. I voted meh because I'm on the fence with these type of runs but I find it uncalled for to call someones work a piece of shit simply because I didn't enjoy it and to further continue my discontent by telling the author to retire. Does this satisfy you and the irony in your post?

It's possible to do a chalenge here: show all the bugs you know, then finish the run fast as possible. If someone find a new bug or show all the same bugs, but more interesting to see, he can obsolete the preview run. I will make a better version later without useless parts shown in this one. Some parts as the two first death, where Mario carries a switch from the other side of the fence, getting the maximum score in the first level in the forest.

That glitch is YouTube.com's video. http://ww.youtube.com/watch?v=v_DRptF8yBw [Edit by Bisqwit: Duplicate message deleted]

I was entertained by this run and will vote yes. The few broken segments of profanity I uttered weren't precisely coherent and the faces I made were both things I'd never want on any form of identification. Now, opinion. I don't post here much because I'm violently opinionated and as such pretty much every single thing I normally type wouldn't belong on a family friendly site whatsoever. If I did start posting often I'd only wind up making enemies and get banned so I'm sparse out of respect for bisqwit.iki.fi, err, TASVideos.org. The first matter that bears further discussion is simply attitude. Being a long time Doomer I've heard quite a bit of 'Duke3D sucks'. Well, I love both games. You can love one thing without hating something else by reflex. You can dislike someone's movie without insulting them as well. Completely regardless of your appreciation to their art they put both time and effort into it's creation and it's perfectly reasonable to object or be outright dismissive of it, but you can perform both without inciting petty drama. Alter may not have gone on to make so many excellent revisions of his Metroid 2 run if everyone called his first attempt a 'disgusting piece of shit' and a seasoned veteran certainly deserves better than that. Anyone with the freakin' patience to actually create a TAS deserves better than that. I for one greatly appreciated the hilarity present in this run, Genisto, and thanks for uploading it. I'll take it one step further and state that I don't think any recourse against Sir VG should be taken. The man is freely entitled to his opinion regardless of how he expressed it. Drama for drama's sake will not accomplish anything and it's not as if Sir VG is new here either, nor is this the first clash. Anyone commenting on it further should only be between involved parties through PMs; this isn't recess. The second matter is, of course, where should this movie go (vulgar suggestions aside)? Well as it isn't a speedrun in any sense it doesn't belong with the rest of the speedruns, and there already exists a category for movies that feature some other concept. So I say this should go into the concept demo category. You can call it a glitchfest, lollercaust, goofapalloza demo or whatever but certainly it fits in as a concept demo. Personally I'd greatly enjoy many runs that others wouldn't attach the semantic 'entertaining' label to (the R-Types, Peace Keepers) and I would like to see the concept demo directory grow. Just to avoid any 'make it yourself!'s, I think this will be the last request I ever make: a concept demo of an NES Mega Man game that does not abuse programming glitches. Thanks again Genisto.

Don't think I can vote, but for what it's worth just like to say I enjoyed this run, and would like to see it published. Edit: Turns out I can vote now. Wee

I'll take it one step further and state that I don't think any recourse against Sir VG should be taken. The man is freely entitled to his opinion regardless of how he expressed it.

How is it that Sir VG is allowed to express his opinion, while others aren't allowed to do so (about Sir VG). If you argue that doing this would be off-topic, then you might be right... but remember that Sir VG is the one who took this off-topic, by not just stating his opinion of this movie, but by personally offending the author of the movie.

Well the guy didn't say don't talk about Sir VG's opinion, just limit such things to PMs so this thread can remain on topic. As someone who's seen threads derailed by the most asinine things I'd agree with negjay. There is a bit of "turn the other cheek," and "be the bigger person" in such suggestions which many including me, don't really want to follow, but eh it's the internet. Taking offense easily doesn't really get you anywhere.

Throwing fire on fire doesn't put it out, Baxter, that's how. trytoguess summed it up pretty well. I've seen a lot of silly arguments back and forth over my years, some of which have gone as far as bloodshed. Some even started over a foul mood from something as banal as undercooked food. I'm not aware of any backstory between these two, I'm not aware of the mindset of Sir VG when he made his surprisingly snippy comment, and quite frankly neither are worth the forum clutter of openly discussing in a submission vote thread. Open consideration of the snark from unconcerned groups (ie, everyone except Sir VG, Genisto and the mods of the forum) accomplishes absolutely nothing and should simply be (voluntarily) discouraged. At least that's my opinion. These forums are refreshingly pleasant to browse for wips and new discoveries and so forth (although the Super Metroid thread is a little jabby), all I'm trying to say is that if everyone shares their thoughts on this the thread is going to be massively derailed. When (not if) future situations like this arise that don't directly affect you it'd just be wiser to forget about it and move on. The idea is that I'm sure a lot of nasty comments have passed through the PM system on this forum and that's the way it should be; maybe if whenever something like this happens we should just tell people to take it to the PMs instead of throwing our own opinions on it. Especially if it's not your fight, Genisto can react on his own, and the forums are just that much cleaner by refraining. The only reason I commented in the first place was a few posts afterward were made that weren't about the submission. Actually I'm not really sure of my motivations beyond that, mostly it's just a personal annoyance that I don't like to see these forums used in that way. They seem to be so clean for the most part I'd rather not see them get gunked up. Strictly speaking of the follow up posts to Sir VG's that weren't Genisto if everyone did it this thread would be a huge mess by now. And I've seen basically every one of those tricks individually before but I did like seeing them all compiled. I've never seen the death jingle trigged and the level continued in silence before, though, that was pretty surprising.

I guess TASing SMW for a long time has made me jaded. I liked the fake death, that was definitely cool, but other than that nothing really surprised me or impressed me. That's not to say I can't see how this would be entertaining to others who are less familiar with the game, but it's a no vote for me.

That glitch is YouTube.com's video. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v_DRptF8yBw [Edit by Bisqwit: Duplicate message deleted]

fix URL.... I'm sorry.

Well, this has obviously generated some contention. While I enjoyed the video, there were very few things that were substantially different from the other published SMW runs. If there were more tricks it might be a different story, but as the run stands it's basically an edited-down version of the 120-star run, and since it's intentionally slower, less entertaining to watch.

I loved it.

Pretty cool run. It shows many weird glitches I have never seen before. I especially liked: - the unlimited coin and 1-up mushroom glitch in a level before Ludwig's Castle - Bonus Level screw up with alot of lag and unexpected stuff in one of the forest levels - the death skip in Choco Island 3 Other than that there were some really interesting moves and little tricks all over the run. Despite the run showing alot of cool glitches, I have to give it a meh, mainly because it doesn't have a clear goal, nor aims for speed in any way. Also, to everybody who has doubts about Genisto just because of this run now, I want to note that he is still one of the best TASer on this site for sure. If you ever battled him in a serious TAS, you would understand what great skills he has when it comes to optimizations.

I'll vote yes, because I was quite entertained, but I think this should be published as a concept demo, since it pretty clearly doesn't obsolete either any of the two three current SMW movies.

What about the small - mario run?

I died laughing multiple times, especially at the completely unexpected deaths. I can't count all the WTF moments I went through. I don't think this run should be published since it's not really the point of the site, but I did "enjoy watching the movie", so I'll vote yes. It was a great watch, and I'll definitely watch it again sometime in the future. Good job. The world needs more of these kinds of movies. Perhaps a messaround / "demonstrate as many glitches as possible in a single run" category should be opened. PS: I don't watch SDA runs, and I have never seen any of these glitches before.

PS: I don't watch SDA runs, and I have never seen any of these glitches before.

Strange, a lot of these glitches (including yoshi flight) are present in the current SMW and SDW tases.

PS: I don't watch SDA runs, and I have never seen any of these glitches before.

Strange, a lot of these glitches (including yoshi flight) are present in the current SMW and SDW tases.

Well, when I said "any", I just meant "a lot". Of course I've seen things like the block creation glitch, but I've never seen it used in so many creative ways. And I haven't seen the SDW movie.

The SDW120 exit run has a lot of these glitches, especially the spring glitches (even more than what genisto did). And it's fast! The only new glitch I remember seeing from this movie was the fake death, and carrying 3 items at once.

I just like some parts of the run, these're interesting moments, but this is not a speedrun and it's too long... vote meh.

I think it's an easy yes. There's lots of very entertaining moments in this and it shows off a lot of the quirks of the game.

Oh, and for those who vote no on the grounds of being familiar with most of the glitches, do keep in mind that most of the videos produced on this site are seen by people who do NOT know about these glitches. This video does a good job of showing off a lot of them along with many "what the fuck?!" moments. Again, it's all opinion, but understand the target audience here.

Things I have to say about specific levels before I realized there was too much to say: vanilla secret 2 to the beat of the music was great. Also I really liked the sliding into the spinies in the pit. I'm surprised you didn't show the secret pipe in ludwig van koopa's castle. But in general good mix of new stuff and old stuff. I don't see anything wrong with this as a concept/demo. it's really a lot like the mortal kombat runs, showing off things people don't know and the engine quirks. So yes I enjoyed, and yes I think it should be published but in the concept/demo section. (It could be obsoleted by having more showing off and more optimal speed during the parts where you're just finishing a level for the sake of getting to the next one, I dunno)