User Files from MESHUGGAH

Upload All User Files
1 2
6 7 8
11 12

#18399143893408916 - NES Parasol Henbee WIP5

MESHUGGAH_Parasol Henbee_Hardest_v5.fm2
In 01:03.88 (3839 frames), 3218 rerecords
Game: Parasol Henbee ( NES, see all files )
721 downloads
Uploaded 10/29/2014 2:13 PM by MESHUGGAH (see all 292)
First level and boss done.
Avoid colliding with dead enemies (you can fall on them, resulting in 1 frame of no movement speed) Avoid falling down from a platform instead of jumping off (1 frame of no movement speed instead)
Age 10~20 is hardest difficulty, 3 lives, 3 parasols ("ammo")/parasol symbol, 150 time, 1 rainbow length (a half circle), no ducking.
So I guess I need to restrict the ammount of parasol usages.

#18283745307423457 - NES Shinobi TAS improvements

MESHUGGAH_Shinobi.fm2
In 07:36.42 (27430 frames), 27552 rerecords
Game: Shinobi ( NES, see all files )
1081 downloads
Uploaded 10/24/2014 9:29 AM by MESHUGGAH (see all 292)
Input changes starts around 15000th frame MANDARA boss (the level that starts with statue shoot out) spawns after player reaches specific X position, so...
84 frames saved by
  • abusing special first frame to jump and shoot so we don't wait for the generic "wait until falling down to take control"
  • abusing the "falling down" mechanic which clears the "firing" bit from action state. However we can only shoot 1 bullet at a time (only 1 slot for that), so this only saves time (and it saved a lot here) if we can: fire in air, touch the ground and the bullet previously fired collide with enemy within 9 frames to fire again opposed to a simple 9 frame delay between each firing.
Checked all jumps from the beginning, so...
  • 1 frame saved by different route to the end before final boss
  • 8 frame saved by removed 1 unneccessary "horizontally slow" jump right before the final boss level
The final boss input is the same, as I already abused the "state changer" falling mechanic there, just didn't documented it.

#18136606278777935 - NES Shinobi WIP11

MESHUGGAH_Shinobi (U)v11.fm2
In 02:47.47 (10065 frames), 7434 rerecords
Game: Shinobi ( NES, see all files )
1130 downloads
Uploaded 10/17/2014 6:27 PM by MESHUGGAH (see all 292)
Improved 1-3 (boss fight) and completed level 2 screens and boss (helicopter). Currently ~260 frames faster than latest rejected submission.
Note to myself: add that random UD,UD glitch for boss 2. That's the only place where it doesn't takes time to pull off a graphic glitch
Other useless information is that Wrath of the Black Manta's (Ninja Cop Saizou) engine is updated from this one. But there's no pause glitch and it seems the air direction change also missing, but I guess I will recheck those tricks on this one.

#18134112835667135 - NES Shinobi WIP6

MESHUGGAH_Shinobi (U)v6.fm2
In 01:13.40 (4411 frames), 3546 rerecords
Game: Shinobi ( NES, see all files )
1085 downloads
Uploaded 10/17/2014 3:45 PM by MESHUGGAH (see all 292)
  • you don't need to rescue hostages. They are called "power-ups".
  • Power-ups: 10k points, bonus level, max life, weapon power (doesn't effects boss dmg-s, they count hits not dmg)
  • after damage boosting, you stop after a while, so it's only useful when you land before that happens
  • landing (from a jump, from a platform) costs 1 frame
So, my route is simply win to right.
Completes 1-1 and 1-2 and boss. 203 frames faster than latest rejected submission because not picking unuseful power up and properly controlling the game (menu, character, jumping timing, reducing jump counts etc).
Boss fight probably improvable, but notice that every hit spawns a fireball which hard to manipulate greatly while still in a good position.

#18108039675433228 - NES Escape from Atlantis WIPv1

MESHUGGAH_Escape From Atlantisv1.fm2
In 00:02.75 (165 frames), 1009 rerecords
818 downloads
Uploaded 10/16/2014 11:34 AM by MESHUGGAH (see all 292)
Currently bashing through NES TAS candidates. After watching the hilarious videos about playing this miserable spaghetti, I've thought I give it a try.
Worth. First stage completed in 125 frames by
  • Running (1.0px/f) with A+R,R pattern instead of walking (0.25px/f)
  • B button and player Y pos manipulates bird

#18018040000291436 - NES ARBF WIP70

MESHUGGAH_ARBFv70-compact.fm3
In 01:36.95 (5827 frames), 33321 rerecords
1036 downloads
Uploaded 10/12/2014 10:18 AM by MESHUGGAH (see all 292)
New discoveries implemented.
  • Doing the POW boost from ground with 384 walk speed and minimal speed reduction lets you get a 672 - 1 frame of walk reduction (19) = 653 units. This only works from the ground (to use the smallest reduction that comes from walking).
So...
  • 1-1: abusing 3rd bomb to do 653 ground pow boost instead of 640, saving 4 frames
  • 1-2: nope
  • 1-3: we jump even much smaller with 653 (impossible to bypass the second rat) so, same
  • 1-4: we can't position the bomb to make a ground pow boost.
  • 1-5: doing 653 ground pow boost saved 3 frames
  • 1-6: relatively new route (compared to previous WIP), optimizations might help to squeeze out more saves. something 12 + many frames faster (653 speed + route changes)
  • 1-7: currently the bitch has the worse position she could get.

#17910653396657761 - NES ARBF WIP54

MESHUGGAH_ARBFv54-compact.fm3
In 01:36.41 (5794 frames), 30023 rerecords
1043 downloads
Uploaded 10/7/2014 2:14 PM by MESHUGGAH (see all 292)
Improved third screen with 24 frames by
  • tiny improvment at the start, squeezing few subpixels
  • jumping to the 1st stairs and throwing a bomb and boosting to 576 beforehand to maximize our position while throwing an ideal bomb (position and time wise)
Improved fourth screen with 23 frames by
  • better bomb throw timing/position, maybe improvable?
Improved fifth screen with 4 (or 24?) frames by
  • self boosting with our bomb, because explodes earlier than the first enemy's. Bullwinkle can't throw it on top of the stairs from the ground and don't forget he requires to make a "mini jump" (or continuing a normal jump with a smaller Y boost), so currently this was the best position/timing.
Movie contains my "old" test runs for the next screens, which probably improvable with more self boosting and more position optimizing.

#17840162079485036 - NES ARBF WIP46

MESHUGGAH_ARBFv46-compact.fm3
In 00:46.77 (2811 frames), 24651 rerecords
837 downloads
Uploaded 10/4/2014 10:02 AM by MESHUGGAH (see all 292)
The adventures of rocky and bullwinkle and friends first few screens of level 1. tas faq: http://tasvideos.org/NES/AdventuresOfRockyAndBullwinkleAndFriends.html (I know, I made the page missing the GameResources directory...)
After finishing the first two levels (levels takes several scenes), I've started to reimplement various tricks and about to compile best routes.
Subpixel over carries on screens: 1-2 to 1-3, 1-3 to 1-4.
Comments. First level, first screen
  • Starting with throwing a bomb for self boost is 49 position slower (considering you are going with 576 units, it would take 22 frames), so we are abusing the most optimal in both timing/position is the 2nd falling bomb.
  • Since you need to get 0 speed to bend over for the key, best strategy is throwing a bomb and boosting for the end, because the setup doesn't takes much time and as previously mentioned, it get's efficient in long distances.
Second screen
  • Climbing stairs depending on your position where you hit the stairs, usually the fastest method is A*4,U*4,A*4 because of the tinier better Y/X position trade between jumping and climbing to barely reach the next platform to continue charging to top speed.
  • Most optimal exiting is always same length. Subpixels and maybe stair orientation alters the usage of U over D
Third screen
  • Using optimal subpixels to get an additional speed gain to jump off without falling down
  • Since you can't avoid red spike, jumping when only hit once is the best and continue holded speed instead of 384
Fourth screen
  • Picking up soda can because we are thirsty
  • Throwing a bomb to boost off and jump over the huge gap which otherwise hard because of the great hitbox of the red spike above your head, you also need to time your dmg to avoid your speed getting zero (as you run out of health while charging).
Fifth screen
  • Currently optimizing best X and Y pos for first enemy's bomb to boost off and Bullwinkle's position to avoid further chainsaws. Just running to the right ends the level at 3085 with 576 units speed (goof jumps are not abusable to get 640 units speed)
Also I have no idea if there any use of bombs other than boosting off and killing enemies (especially since you can't combine this two, you either boost off and get dmg or you dmg someone else and cry in a corner for no extra speed).

#17539841775911711 - Good ABAHB route

MESHUGGAH_Zephyrz_Aglar_ABAHBv18.fm2
In 01:19.17 (4758 frames), 32762 rerecords
1066 downloads
Uploaded 9/20/2014 9:26 PM by MESHUGGAH (see all 292)
I removed the additional ketchup throwing but came up better jelly bean combinations where I could feed blob earlier without loosing time on teleporting him not far enough.
Ends in 4758 (144 frames faster than cancelled movie), there's a few other tests need to be done before finishing.
edit: note that the final submission is 2 frames faster

#17538004551377850 - Bad ABAHB route

MESHUGGAH_Zephyrz_Aglar_ABAHBv12.fm2
In 01:21.00 (4868 frames), 29117 rerecords
1091 downloads
Uploaded 9/20/2014 7:27 PM by MESHUGGAH (see all 292)
Unfortunately, using the "combine jellybeans effect" trick (teleport blob to specific place and transform to something) requires 1 additional ketchup jellybean to improve 109 frames compared to the cancelled one.
However, we only have 6, and we used all of them, so this route can't be finished in a shorter time (you need to wait blob to walk across 2~3 screen and then throw an apple).
And since only the ketchup jellybean lets you teleport the blob and you can't use the rocket "underground" nor avoid revisiting rat king instead of peek-a-booing, it looks like only the 8 frames will be implemented to previous one.

#17473282652744118 - ABAHB mesh+zephyrz+aglar

MESH_ZEPHYRZ_AGLAR_ABAHBv6.fm2
In 01:21.43 (4894 frames), 23623 rerecords
1093 downloads
Uploaded 9/17/2014 9:30 PM by MESHUGGAH (see all 292)
History:
  • Aglar PMs me his old trick from his old run that the previously TAS didn't used
  • opened up submission file, nearly rewrote full movie to see any random free improvements
  • 8 frames saved by throwing the very first jellybean as soon as possible and later change it "on the fly" by shooting another jellybean on the nearest occasion. This doesn't saves time anywhere else.
Also note that all unnecessary jellybean switching is removed.

#17425416516889109 - Boy and his Blob final TAS

MESHUGGAH_Zephyrz_blobolonia.fm2
In 01:21.56 (4902 frames), 21137 rerecords
1103 downloads
Uploaded 9/15/2014 5:46 PM by MESHUGGAH (see all 292)
Ends in 4902 frames. The end.

#17393769008978487 - Zephyrz's Blob TAS impr/opt

blob_zephyr_mesh_4932.fm2
In 01:22.06 (4932 frames), 15292 rerecords
1110 downloads
Uploaded 9/14/2014 7:33 AM by MESHUGGAH (see all 292)
86 frames faster than Blobv2 (last updated movie file in his workbench submission)
Some things you maybe interested in:
Blob OoB
Use Punch jellybean on the right side of the screen with at least 235 X pos for blob and 234 X pos for boy and hold left once the bean goes offscreen while the boy falls down to the hole (blob)
X Speed
To reach fastest speed as fast as possible, you press R*8, empty, R*7, empty, R*3, empty, R.
Trampoline Y speed
Checks U button every 3rd frame, stops when pressing B
I'm going to restart the TAS alone with new tricks like OoB without jellybean throwing.

#17069866534581522 - NES Trojan WIP70

Trojan (PC10)v71-compact.fm3
In 04:14.83 (15315 frames), 51527 rerecords
Game: Trojan ( NES, see all files )
1 comment, 1298 downloads
Uploaded 8/30/2014 5:28 PM by MESHUGGAH (see all 292)

#16887238422193023 - NG1 pacifisting WIP87v3

NG1_pacifist_WIP87v3-compact.fm3
In 11:29.78 (41455 frames), 171693 rerecords
Game: Ninja Gaiden ( NES, see all files )
1363 downloads
Uploaded 8/22/2014 12:04 PM by MESHUGGAH (see all 292)
4-1 dog doesn't hits red block so he follows us even with 1.5px sacrifice (or delayed spawn, etc).
Shoudl need to change slot 5 pos or slot 7 or time.

#16883891278959572 - NG1 pacifisting WIP87v2

NG1_pacifist_WIP87v2-compact.fm3
In 11:29.78 (41455 frames), 170884 rerecords
Game: Ninja Gaiden ( NES, see all files )
1331 downloads
Uploaded 8/22/2014 8:27 AM by MESHUGGAH (see all 292)

#16866159371745158 - NES Trojan WIPv51

Trojan (PC10)v51-compact.fm3
In 02:46.79 (10024 frames), 40546 rerecords
Game: Trojan ( NES, see all files )
1 comment, 1334 downloads
Uploaded 8/21/2014 1:17 PM by MESHUGGAH (see all 292)
36 frames faster than adelikat up to 3-1 end (there's 7*2 stages (2 part each stage).
Spammed various patterns throughout to movie to decrease the monotonity of jumping and slashing. No complaints allowed.
Delay route is same and fastest currently (possibilities is 16 subpos * time value (maximum delay which could save time is something like 5 frames, this mostly depends on level architecture and the possibilities of spawning sides for enemies) * number of enemies need to be manipulated (usually 1, sometimes 2 edit: and don't forget to add yourself in the calculation, as your position also manipulates and carries over stages as well as from the map screens).

#16826687425410129 - NG1 pacifisting WIP86 scumtron improvement

NG1_pacifist_WIP86b-compact.fm3
In 11:29.78 (41455 frames), 170393 rerecords
Game: Ninja Gaiden ( NES, see all files )
1320 downloads
Uploaded 8/19/2014 6:38 PM by MESHUGGAH (see all 292)

#16804763959560275 - NES Trojan WIPv40

Trojan (PC10)v41-compact.fm3
In 01:29.27 (5365 frames), 34942 rerecords
Game: Trojan ( NES, see all files )
1293 downloads
Uploaded 8/18/2014 6:56 PM by MESHUGGAH (see all 292)
28 frames faster than master adelikat, up to the armadillo boss death/end (Stage 2-2 perhaps?).
Randomness depends on time (not in-game time) and player X subposition. Therefore I
- Delay 1 frame starting the game to spawn first enemy on left side
- Delay 1 frame at the end to manipulate next level first enemy position
- Delay 2 frame after 2-1 boss and before 2-2 boss.

Player subpos ranges from 0,16,32,48...240 (16 values)
Timer I believe is only a byte, I should write down more values.

Level by level comparison: http://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1qW7_UFKPhVVKdtoNhUTDTOdic0MqA9Zo0AlquZMZfH8/edit?usp=sharing
Have no idea if I posted my lua script already, here's a totally not newbie friendly one: http://pastebin.com/hrJDu5VV

#16186028725317946 - NG1 pacifisting WIP84v4

NG1_pacifist_WIP84v4-compact.fm3
In 11:29.80 (41456 frames), 169819 rerecords
Game: Ninja Gaiden ( NES, see all files )
1209 downloads
Uploaded 7/21/2014 10:10 PM by MESHUGGAH (see all 292)
Removed the 1 frame delay on 1-2 boss which was required to manipulate 2-1 enemies.
This changed a few things, especially 3-2, and now I'm 1 subtimer (in-game time) behind on 3-3, which makes me lose 3 frames (timer rule).
Regarding previous "required 1 frame delay":
The last part of 1-1 consists important slots in this TAS.
  • Slot 7 tyson for recovery walljump and 2-1 starting tyson and dog and guardian of ladder on 2-1 2nd screen
  • Slot 6 (dog) for 2-1 second tyson and 2-1 2nd screen tyson
  • Slot 4 (tyson)
I've tested all the possible sacrifices BEFORE the 1-1 ending part (last tyson recovery walljump) but either slot 7 (rwj) or slot 4 (last tyson hitting) became worse because of the improvement beforehand, however only losing 0.5px on RWJ deemed to be the best and fewest sacrifice to manipulate everything miraculously.
So, I need to remove 1 interrupt again from the route, not sure if it's possible.

#16150555678276945 - NG1 pacifisting WIP83v6b

NG1_pacifist_WIP83v6b-compact.fm3
In 11:29.80 (41457 frames), 168623 rerecords
Game: Ninja Gaiden ( NES, see all files )
1309 downloads
Uploaded 7/20/2014 7:50 AM by MESHUGGAH (see all 292)
Resynced up to 5-1 start.
  • 2 frames save preserved up to 4-2 start, but different bitch and bad positions results in 1 frame loss (so only 1 frame saved)
  • 3 frames saved on 4-2 second screen due to different timer and poses and route
  • desyncs at 5-1. I still have the worst subpos at the start (the NFL soldier from the sky gets worst slot), which affects nearly all of the next enemies in a bad way...

#16111309221221011 - NG1 pacifisting WIP83v2b

NG1_pacifist_WIP83v2b-compact.fm3
In 11:29.85 (41459 frames), 167274 rerecords
Game: Ninja Gaiden ( NES, see all files )
1380 downloads
Uploaded 7/18/2014 1:25 PM by MESHUGGAH (see all 292)
Removed the 2 frame sacrifice and saved it up to 4-2 start by manipulating timer 0 to last boss death.
Side effect: 4-2 knife thrower is few frames slower, we have very bad position (spawns are at 0.5px distance, too much interrupts) and can't really manipulate it on the level (needs different subposes earlier).
Desyncs at 4-2 end. (84 Y pos is the required height, this time Ryu scratches 88 barely.)

#16049698225137617 - NG1 pacifisting WIP82v7c

NG1_pacifist_WIP82v7c-compact.fm3
In 11:29.88 (41461 frames), 166359 rerecords
Game: Ninja Gaiden ( NES, see all files )
1297 downloads
Uploaded 7/15/2014 6:49 PM by MESHUGGAH (see all 292)
Resynced the 2 frames save on 2-2 first screen up to 4-2 start.
Unfortunately I'm 4 subtimer faster (BITCH DESYNC), so I need to rechange a few sections. Also I sacrificed 2 frames before 3-2 which is saved back, without this sacrifice it would be the same length (but probably different subposes).
Currently 255 frames faster @ 4-2 start compared to feos' "full pacifist test run".

#16026779505463673 - NG1 pacifisting WIP81v6

NG1_pacifist_WIP81v6-compact.fm3
In 11:29.88 (41461 frames), 165607 rerecords
Game: Ninja Gaiden ( NES, see all files )
1168 downloads
Uploaded 7/14/2014 6:03 PM by MESHUGGAH (see all 292)
Most of my early improvements required to resync later stages each time, so I guess it's now worth to upload something since it's 2 frame faster on 2-2 first screen now.
Something something interrupt bullets + increase distance between ryu and soldier to damage boost off to the platform, so no need to dodge it thanks to invulnerability which worns out so fucking fast (60 frames)
Other than that, this WIP (and from 79s,) contains a lot of subposes changes starting from stage 1 and a few improvements for 4-2 later levels.

#15802058998583225 - NG1 pacifisting WIP77v2

NG1_pacifist_WIP77v2-compact.fm3
In 11:30.53 (41500 frames), 156343 rerecords
Game: Ninja Gaiden ( NES, see all files )
1213 downloads
Uploaded 7/4/2014 3:10 PM by MESHUGGAH (see all 292)
Improved 5-1 with a few frames by different route (bird boost, ducking mostly)
  • 2-2 3rd screen: a half pixel save is not enough to improve it.
  • 3-2: no matter how you sacrifice position, birdy won't be good for 2 times like in these WIPs
  • 4-2: probably unimprovable
I don't know if the 4-3 2nd screen bullet guy can be remanipulated to shoot the first bullet properly, it should save a few frames because of the timer limit. I tried changing subposes and interrupt juggling, didn't had real impact on him (he is timer based too).
1 2
6 7 8
11 12