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Leeadamaa wrote:
seems that if the TASBot would have a monitor to keep track of clock speeds it could adjust itself dynamically based on random lag etc....
It already synchronizes to polling from console (which on NES often allows compensating lag) and optionally also to VSYNC signal from console.
Unfortunately, this doesn't help on SNES, because most games have the console poll. Yes, there is top-notch accurate SNES emulation, but that won't help with initial state affecting lag. :-/
Although TASBot does not do N64, the same syncing to polls is the reason why some N64 runs have been verified, even if emulator accuracy is pretty much total garbage.
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JXQ wrote:
I have a technical question about this (very impressive) run. In the first EAC TAS which jumps to the ending, I got the impression from the submission text that there was just enough time to add the instructions to jump to the ending before the game would have otherwise crashed:
I managed to somewhat bring a routine into that garbage shifting. I have 3 bytes at the start, then I execute a WAI, after that I execute another WAI so it has enough time to update, then I branch back to the first 3 bytes, which also have new input.
However this is very unstable, I couldn't even do that routine one more time, the shifting was completely different suddenly and everything was failing, so I had luck that it worked.
Am I understanding this correctly? I doubt it.. but if so, what was done differently to allow the input to continue for much longer / indefinitely?
The "garbage shifting" is an emulation error! On real SNES, it works differently.
Later methods were developed that allow overwriting arbitrary number of memory addresses in LowRAM (first 8kB of WRAM). And also, those are much much cleaner than the mess in that submission and work on real console.
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AustinYQM wrote:
I guess my first question would be that the game was released on PlayStation 2, GameCube, and XBOX aswell as Arcade. Which ROM or Emulator would be better for what I am looking to do?
Gamecube is the only one of those that has rerecording emulation (well, many arcade games do, but I don't think anything that new does).
But I don't think the Gamecube emu has built-in trace logging. Disassembly would likely be pretty huge. And even memory watch is via external programs (blech! that would be pretty major thing to fix).
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AustinYQM wrote:
So I am actually more interested in breaking a game down for information. The game being Gauntlet Legends and the info being how damage works and how stats contribute to said damage. Along with many other things.
How would I go about doing this? I feel like TASers would have the answer to this question.
Disassembling the game, using trace logging, memory watching, etc...
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Matt_S wrote:
I saw the AGDQ verification (awesome). I didn't catch the exact details of how it worked, though. Did the TASbot have 8 controller outputs connected to two physical multitaps, or did it have two outputs that simulated a multitap connection?
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synnchan wrote:
I was wondering if there's a way to run the movie file up to that point, then somehow take control again and do that to replace the commands in the movie file. How can I do that?
Play it in read-only mode up to point you want and then switch to read-write mode and continue from there?
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No easy convertibility is actually big part of the reason why snes9x 1.43 is not allowed for submissions.
Also, pretty much all SNES emulators (including versions of snes9x) have pretty different timings, and a run is unlikely sync across emulators.
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NitroGenesis wrote:
Using mednafen. But I don't think anyone would ever want to touch mednafen again. I think adelikat is the only person to ever use mednafen to make a Lynx run.
DwangoAC has been trying to use it. But running into lots of strange desync problems.
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FractalFusion wrote:
That being said, I think Braid's "ending" is glitched and doesn't qualify for best ending (doesn't that require collecting all stars or something?).
Yeah, it does normally require collecting the stars (one of which takes about two hours to get).
And that ending (no stars reaching the princess) is also the fastest.
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Voting for Rookie of 2013 (until about 2014-01-15 0242UTC).
Platforms: All, first movie in 2013.
Nominees:
Amaraticando
AndiHoffi
dnnzao
Got4n
iongravirei
K
keylie
£e Nécroyeur
McHazard
MrWint
nEilfox
numerics
Pike
Quibus.
Qwerty6000
slamo
SoulCal
Spikestuff
THC98
Tiancaiwhr
xxNKxx
Winner: Got4n
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Call for nominations for Computer TASer of 2013 (until about 2014-01-15 0119UTC).
Platforms: DOS+Windows+MSX
Nominations:
Bernka
keylie
Masterjun
Quibus
slamo
Winner: slamo
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Voting for Sega TASer of 2013 (until about 2014-01-15 0212UTC).
Platforms: Genesis+GG+SMS
Nominees:
Aqfaq
atro city
Cooljay
Dooty
Grincevent
Janus
Winner: Dooty
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Voting for Nintendo 3D TASer of 2013 (until about 2014-01-15 0206UTC).
Platforms: N64+GC+Wii+DS
Nominees:
Lord Tom
MrGrunz
mtbRc
numerics
SoulCal
THC98
zvsp
Winner: THC98
