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Fceux has an option to manually set lag flag when you feel like it (judging by whatever address the game uses as a lag flag). In bizhawk you only can get lag flag, and get/set lag count. It's not hard to implement, but adelikat refused the idea for some reason. Maybe because the possibility to skip such frames on demand wasn't considered.
However, in TAStudio you can hide every other frame's row, though I don't know if it actually skips the frame.
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I'm pretty sure the overall approach can be widely applied depending on available tools.
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Starred THUG2 and (as is already known) Spider-Man all items. THUG2 is insane! As for Muramasa, uhm, seriously? Running left and right for 1 hour (with occasional fights, huge props to their very existence) is a star? I'd refer to Wiki: StarmanGuidelines again to show how "well" this one fits.
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TASeditor (the guy) have done some stuff for best angle automation for n64hawk with lua.
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What about finally replaying Gradius? Bonus points if the controller is plugged out after the movie ends to make it clear that the rest of the run is planned out to have no input.
And I still think multi-game tas is a nice thing. Since consoles might have different timing, it can be done by plugging a separate bot to each console, so it comes to having more than one replay device.
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I don't see how the site becomes better rejecting runs like this one. The same happened to FF "console verification". It is obvious, that we can no longer limit our approach to "fast" and "entertaining", because technical work that is being done for the last few years has its own merit, and it's irreplaceable for the community. See what's going on regarding TAS blocks. They are a huge trend now, thanks to those efforts.
So if the question is "were you entertained?", I give it a Meh, it's not particularly entertaining to watch. But "should this be published?" ABSOLUTELY. By flushing such runs in the gruefood delight, we do not give proper credits to what was done for the community by such runs, and totally ignore the effects of them. The site is not getting better then.
And this is exactly the reason to add a Demo tier category, where such runs of superb technical level and priceless historical meaning would feel best. But to make the global acceptance terms sane, we should not base Demo on some isolated type of efforts, like we tried earlier.
I described the approach in-depths here.
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Radiant wrote:
It strikes me that the branch poll we had back in April has basically the exact opposite outcome of what feos is suggesting here...
Maybe too late, but the suggestion is to use BOTH outcomes: just not blindly, but relying on statistics. Read the OP once again.
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Warp wrote:
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As I said, I think ACE is awesome in its own right, but should be considered a completely distinct category from game-completing speedruns.
Oh god. IS IT NOT?
Clearly not, given how many posts have been made defending the concept that ACE runs that jump to the end credits are legit game completions. (And the fact that ACE run submissions are officially not considered breaking the rule that says that the game must be completed.)
The debate about "fastest ACE completion" and "fastest game completion without ACE" isn't about whether they should be categories.
It's about which one should be called any% (making the other one either "game end glitch" if we have the any% as non-ACE, or "no ACE" if we have the any% as ACE-allowed).
That's a completely different problem. It only depends on the viewer what to call "true any%", the site can't do it, exactly because it depends on viewer opinions, and they differ drastically. So we just have both. Fastest possible by all means is vaultable, so it will be published no matter what. Avoiding game breaking glitches will only be published if the game is entertaining enough to have branches. Read carefully the following post:
http://tasvideos.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=15247
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Warp wrote:
As I said, I think ACE is awesome in its own right, but should be considered a completely distinct category from game-completing speedruns.
Oh god. IS IT NOT?
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ACE is done unassisted as well.
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Newcomer Rec was designed to keep runs that blew people's minds, regardless of when it happened. It showcases how super popular games can be abused to maximum.
However, Megaman 1 isn't there, because it's hard to follow, and Megaman 2 is there, because while maximum glitchy, it's kinda easier to follow.
So SMB3 total control absolutely blew people's minds, as did Pokemon Plays Twitch. What about SMW Pong? Did it really blow people's minds?
Then, there's a technical achievement criterion. Each of the runs showcase maximum what can currently be done, and they become more and more impressive during tme, Pi is cute, but rather simple, Pong is 2 years old and kinda faded now, as we saw SMW Mario Maker. SMB3 is super fresh and super neat.
The recent AGDQ event was super successful for tasbot, so if we explain things well in the movie text, it is the run people are likely to want to see when we first arrive, and it's best to be easily accessible.
So while MM1 and MM2 are of the same level of impressiveness, but of different level of comprehensibility, SMB3 total control is by all means the most impressive of the 3, both technically and visually. Bonus points for having a human actually play it before thousands of people (human playing pong is not anymore that impressive really). So if we put Pong there, we're lowering the standard for Newcomer Rec with hopes to be comprehensible, which we probably shouldn't do. It didn't even have a star, just because the payload was not that entertaining. If not the 2 day deadline, Masterjun would have time to do more, but it's what we have.
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fsvgm777 wrote:
Who is interested in an alternate encode with input display?
17:38 fsvgm777 Nach: By the way, if there's enough demand, I'm going to make an alternate (YT) encode with the button presses.
I guess there's no enough demand yet.
sudo do-it
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I don't know the game too well, but it's something absolutely insane.
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This community truly has gone to shit.
Then you seem to love shit don't you?
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Emulation accuracy can affect the factors that RNG uses, but the principle is the same.
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Warp wrote:
feos wrote:
Can you remind me why you consider using emulator tools legit means of game completion?
Because they feed controller input to the game, which is running as exactly as possible compared to the actual console? All TASes could ostensibly be hardware-verified.
After all, abusing emulator bugs is not considered legit. Modifying the game code itself using the emulator is also not considered legit.
I don't really understand what you are getting at.
But you have a whole crowd of people who say "Emulator replay removes all the fun, all the challenge from game completion, only real-time speedrunners are really the men!" No one is able to find what exactly is wrong with replays for them, just because replays rely on some special rules and in that case they get approved by community that is interested in them. Not modding the game is a rule that community likes. That's the only reason it exists. For some people, having the game unmodded isn't enough to consider the playthrough legit. No problem, tastes differ. For different tastes we have different branches. There's too few of branches that complete the game without breaking it? I don't think you'll go ahead and say that. Right now, nothing is taken away from people who like it, even non-game-breaking runs were umobsoleted a few years ago to exist in Moons. What is the real problem then? The fact that people keep creating ACEs? The fact that people keep jumping to credits using TASVideos-approved controller input? Maybe the fact that there's more and more of that, while there's not less and less of the other? Answer and say why.
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Warp wrote:
arandomgameTASer wrote:
So the whole claim that they're NOT trying to beat the game as quickly as possible is, quite frankly, silly.
If I modded a game so that it would simply show the end credits when it's started, would you consider that a legit game completion? Would you consider it having "beat the game"?
If your answer is "no", then think about the reasons why you think it's not, and perhaps then you'll understand why I don't consider ACE runs to be legit either.
Can you remind me why you consider using emulator tools legit means of game completion?
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True wrote:
Eh, for what it's worth, I think no sound is fine. Don't worry about those who get off on TAS entertainment.
The rule/guideline can really be tweaked while we are at it, just like happened with arcade coins and names. Probably to not cause demotivatin, this movie can be published, and then obsoleted by a run with music, even if it'd be still vault. I think music is one of the major features of Road Rash, so it makes sense to have it.
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Any suggested screenshots?
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Silly game, decent run, awesome music. Weak Yes.
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